Rivals of Ixalan Spoilers

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Posted on Oct. 30, 2017, 12:46 p.m. by LittleBlueHero

Early Spoilers are in!

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shadow63 says... #2

These confirmed? Elder dinosaur. I like the way that sounds

October 30, 2017 12:52 p.m.

AgentGreen says... #3

Damn that is one badass dino. And in the right deck a T5 or T6 drop is highly possible.

Will it see play?

October 30, 2017 1:26 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #4

Seeing a turn 3 12-powered trampling commander seems sweet! Granted, you need 8 power by turn two (Old-Growth Dryads + Sheltering Ancient/Tempting Wurm) and then to cast any creature with power more than cmc (https://scryfall.com/search?q=cmc%3Cpow+%28identity%3Ag+or+identity%3Ac%29&order=cmc), but still seems awesome.

Oh wait, that's without Sol Ring or Mana Crypt. Damn, I'm Magical-Christmaslanding wrong.

October 30, 2017 1:40 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #5

Wait, you can turn 2 him with just a Mana Crypt, a Cultivator's Caravan, and an Old-Growth Dryads. Not bad...

Vehicles seem really good with him.

October 30, 2017 1:48 p.m.

Marcs7 says... #6

That ghalta has some ridiculous sinergy with vehicles... Crewing a Heart of Kiran will make it possible to cast on turn four

October 30, 2017 1:49 p.m.

APPLE01DOJ says... #7

Lol that Dino seems nuts in a format filled with Tarmogoyf, Delve creatures, and Death's Shadow.

October 30, 2017 2:59 p.m.

Itsme1357 says... #8

As much as I have to say it that Dino cost to much for constructed maby sealed play it but not constructed as for the murfolk yes I love it

October 30, 2017 3:13 p.m.

Ghalta...awesome name with a ghuttural dinosaur feeling. I like. Elder dinosaur...damn, thats cool.

Regarding silvergill adept: so now we're getting lorwyn reprints, hu?

October 30, 2017 3:32 p.m.

CastleSiege says... #10

Awesome seeing Silvergill Adept getting a reprint with sweet new art AND a foil full art printing. May give standard Merfolk tribal the edge it needs. Fingers crossed for a new lord!

October 30, 2017 8:42 p.m.

Suns_Champion says... #11

Ghalta almost seems... too inexpensive lol

Will be a fun commander card, as general or in the 99.

October 30, 2017 9:43 p.m.

HARDsofty says... #12

Me want more Naya dinos for gishath!

October 31, 2017 12:49 a.m.

psloan says... #13

It's not a mythic! Yay

October 31, 2017 8:49 a.m.

Its an ELDER dinosaur. Interesting.

November 1, 2017 1:23 p.m.

Yes, I'm hoping to see elder Dino Mythics of Ixalli, Kinjalli and Tilonalli etc.

November 1, 2017 2:31 p.m.

I haven't really checked or done anything Magic related for a little while now and the first thing I see when I check in is Ghalta. All I have to say is come January, my self imposed break from Magic will be ending and it's all Ghalta's fault. Dayum that is a cool dino. Get ready to see T4 12/12 tramplers running amok in Standard thanks to Drover of the Mighty and Ripjaw Raptor. Also, I love that there appears to be less feathers on this "Elder Dinosaur", which suggests (to me at least) that he/she is lower on the evolutionary chain (i.e. not as closely related to birds yet).

Silvergill Adept is a welcome reprint for Modern Fish. Hopefully Cursecatcher and a decent merfolk lord will show up as well.

November 2, 2017 1:08 p.m.

Chiberia says... #17

That Dino is an easy turn 4 or 5 play for a mono green deck, maybe even sooner, thats insane

November 7, 2017 9:52 a.m.

CastleSiege says... #18

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor, Merfolk Sovereign was spoiled in Explorers of Ixalan, so there's hope it will show up in Rivals. Even with a 3cmc lord, that could be enough to put Standard Merfolk on the map, especially now that we're getting Silvergill Adept reprinted!

November 7, 2017 11:15 a.m.

clayperce says... #19

They're not remotely real, but if you're hungry for Spoilers, you might want to stop by this thread.

November 9, 2017 9:54 a.m.

Argy says... #20

clayperce for some reason those fake spoilers make me hate the world.

Possibly because one of the new employees at my LGS keeps posting pics of them as though they are real.

Otherwise I would probably find them delightful.

November 10, 2017 9:13 a.m.

clayperce says... #21

Oh that's funny. It's equal parts interesting and sad when the line between Parody and Reality blurs ...

November 10, 2017 10:04 a.m.

CastleSiege says... #22

I mean, it's a fine split between realistic cards, joke cards, and realistic cards that have place holder names and art. It could very well be a playtest sheet that somehow ended up in a Target repack. Or could be a way for Wizards to get people hyped for Unstable.

Almost definitely fake though.

November 10, 2017 10:22 a.m.

Argy says... #23

You get it clayperce.

It's like the uncanny valley of Magic cards.

November 10, 2017 11:47 a.m.

AgentGreen says... #24


New card spoiled. I'm on my phone atm and too lazy to post the entire card

November 17, 2017 5:16 p.m.

Suns_Champion says... #25

I got us.

November 17, 2017 5:54 p.m.

Argy says... #26

Ooooo that might be VERY good in my Factual EDH deck.

November 19, 2017 7:21 a.m.

Daaaamn, that's a cool card.

November 19, 2017 9:27 a.m.

MagicalHacker says... #28

Fun times: turn 2 signet, turn 3 Breya, Etherium Shaper, turn four Storm the Vault to connect with a thopter to get a treasure to make it flip, turn 5 eleven mana if you make the land drop.

Good thing Breya only has 6 signets, but I have no idea how many other color-producing 2-drop mana rocks a Breya deck would/could/should play.

November 19, 2017 7:06 p.m.

Argy says... #29

MagicalHacker to add to the fun - Turn 1 Sol Ring

November 20, 2017 4:43 a.m.

AgentGreen says... #30

Two cards spoiled on mythic

Tetzimoc, Death Primordial

Legendary Creature - Elder Dinosaur


, Reveal Tetzimoc, Death Primordial from your hand: Put a "Prey" counter on target creature. Only activate this ability during your turn.

When Tetzimoc, Death Primordial enters the battlefield, destroy all creatures with a "Prey" counter on them.

Neat card

And the last one; the one that was hinted and still in play. And it WILL hose walkers

The Immortal Sun

Legendary Artifact

Players can't activate Loyalty abilities of Planeswalkers.

At the beginning of your draw step, draw an additional card.

Spells you cast cost 1 less to cast.

Creatures you control get +1/+1.

November 20, 2017 10:42 a.m.

_Delta_ says... #31

The Immortal Sun I think I might throw in my Talrand, Sky Summoner edh deck.

November 20, 2017 noon

MagicalHacker says... #32

I'm merely pointing out how crazy it will be in breya without even going to Magical Christmas Land.

Immortal sun seems like a jack of all trades, but master of none.

November 20, 2017 noon

AgentGreen says... #33

MagicalHacker I see it as something you would play if you are not using Walkers

But that 6 cost is MASSIVE and doesn't do much beyond hosing Walkers

Standard Playable? I have doubts

November 20, 2017 12:53 p.m.

In commander it doesn't help cast as many spells as Caged Sun and pumps the same in decks that run it... doesn't draw as many cards as you could with Mind's Eye... doesn't pump as well a lot of cards that are cheaper than it... so yeah it does a lot of things, but none of them well is a great assessment.

It will be a nice additional play in decks that need to increase those types of effects... colorless card draw is always playable in the format. But unless you know you are playing super friends the walker part is kind of meh since they aren't played heavily in commander.

November 20, 2017 1:48 p.m.

Argy says... #35

I think The Imortal Sun might be decent in Sealed, and for Control in Standard, but there are so many copies of Abrade floating around in the meta that it will be difficult to keep on the board.

November 20, 2017 9:59 p.m.

I for one welcome our Elder Dinosaur overlords. Also, anyone know what's up with the symbol at the top left of the Immortal Sun artwork?

November 20, 2017 10:31 p.m.

Argy says... #37

If you mean the "O" that's just part of the name.

Except it's not English.

November 20, 2017 11:12 p.m.

Ah right, I just immediately translated it into English in my mind and completely forgot that the image was in another language haha. Plus for some reason when I looked at the card last night it didn't look quite like an 'O' to me.

November 21, 2017 10:12 a.m.

HARDsofty says... #39

Must have more Nayan dinosaurs!

November 21, 2017 11:10 a.m.

Suns_Champion says... #40

This forum is for Spoilers.

Isn't that more of a leak? Thus, not legal here?

November 23, 2017 1:23 p.m.

phc says... #41

magicforthewin's link leads to some google drive nonsense. It might be malware.

November 25, 2017 7:17 p.m.

_Delta_ says... #43

Yeah I'm rather suspicious of that as well, everyone else should ignore it.

November 25, 2017 7:49 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #46

I have Caged Sun in all of my EDH decks (thus far), but am wondering if I should replace that card with The Immortal Sun, now that that card has been revealed; they have the same mana cost, but The Immortal Sun increases the power and toughness of all my creatures, regardless of color, and it also has two other excellent abilities. Since it hinders planeswalkers, I will not put it into any of my decks that contain those cards, and, while it will not cause my lands to produce additional mana, the fact that it reduces the cost of my spells will be very similar in practice.

What does everyone else say about this? Is The Immortal Sun a worthy replacement for Caged Sun?

November 26, 2017 8:43 p.m.

phc says... #47

User:DemonDragonJ Caged Sun was a staple in my mono-colored decks, once I splashed a color or two it became less effective. The Immortal Sun ignores the restrictions of Caged Sun, gives you an extra card, and shuts down planeswalkers. It is possible that The Immortal Sun might draw more hate. In a non-superfriends deck that is the only downside I can think of.

November 26, 2017 9:16 p.m.

Lame_Duck says... #48

Wow, Immortal Sun is a profoundly uninteresting design.

November 26, 2017 9:29 p.m.

encore87 says... #49

With the spoiler of a black elder dinosaur. does anyone else think there is going an elder dino for each color

November 28, 2017 8:56 p.m.

Chiberia says... #50

encore87 Oh yeah, if there isn't I would be legitimately shocked

November 28, 2017 9:11 p.m.

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