Apparently there's no thread for Atlazan?

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Posted on Dec. 8, 2016, 6:42 p.m. by Serendipitous_Hummingbird

Anyway, not confirmed to be real, but that's new art on those packages.

Looks like half Atlantis, half Mexica (Aztec)

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/atlazan-an-atlantean-plane

greyninja says... #2

clicky

This is years away so let's not get too hyped lol

December 8, 2016 7:45 p.m.

Atony1400 says... #3

Yeah, we're looking at late 2018/early 2019 before these sets are even released.

However, I like the Atlantis + Aztec feel!

Well, it looks like Ajani will be back in a ltitle while!

December 8, 2016 8:08 p.m.

HolyFalcon says... #4

Is that Bolas on the first Hour of Devastation pack?

December 8, 2016 8:12 p.m.

Atony1400 says... #5

Yes @HolyFalcon.

December 8, 2016 8:58 p.m.

shuflw says... #6

Atony1400

amonkhet block is spring/fall 2017. atlazan, assuming it's the following block, would be fall/winter 17/18.

December 8, 2016 9:08 p.m.

Glad some people are excited for it.

I liked Kamigawa because I don't like Japanese mythology. I liked Theros because I don't like Greco-Roman mythology. I'm probably gonna like Amonkhet because I don't like Egyptian mythology.

Problem is, I love Aztec mythology. It just feels like anything WotC does with it will make me sad :(

December 8, 2016 9:26 p.m.

Wizards sent out an update:

So... not real. I'm sad now. It seemed cool. Maybe they're bluffing ;)

December 8, 2016 9:36 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #9

Are those images real? Has WotC already revealed the next block after Amonkhet? If so, the idea of a block that apparently combines the myth of Atlantis with native American folklore is a very interesting idea.

Serendipitous_Hummingbird, that seems to be contradictory: how does your statement make any sense?

December 8, 2016 9:38 p.m.

@DemonDragonJ: Read above post.

December 8, 2016 9:40 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #11

DarksteelBadger, so, are you saying that "Atlazan" may not actually be the name of the next block?

December 8, 2016 9:45 p.m.

Phaetion says... #12

I loved studying the Aztecs as a child. This will be a nice trip down memory lane. But, if the rumor about Vraska is true, then Altazan must be one special plane if she traveled into a void.

December 8, 2016 9:47 p.m.

Who knows... Wizards didn't say it's not the next set. They just said that the packaging isn't real.

December 8, 2016 9:48 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #14

Phaetion, given that Vraska's importance in the story is apparently about to increase, I would expect har to return to the game at some point, soon; perhaps not in the Amonkhet block, but the block after it.

DarksteelBadger, why did WotC conduct that survey? What was its purpose?

December 8, 2016 9:53 p.m.

I have no clue... there's a Reddit thread out there somewhere.

December 8, 2016 9:56 p.m.

CheeseBro says... #16

I find it hard to believe that WoTC would commission art and all of that for a test. Even if the art is a test, Atlazan is certainly real. otherwise, they could have just written Test123 instead. It seems like wizards is trying to cover up a leak.

December 8, 2016 10:52 p.m.

CheeseBro says... #17

I find it hard to believe that WoTC would commission art and all of that for a test. Even if the art is a test, Atlazan is certainly real. otherwise, they could have just written Test123 instead. It seems like wizards is trying to cover up a leak.

December 8, 2016 10:52 p.m.

Not necessarily. For all we know, they just used rejected art from planeswalker decks and khans legends.

But I'm pretty gassed if atlazan is a thing. Although the name is a bit derpy.

December 8, 2016 11:13 p.m.

sonnet666 says... #19

DemonDragonJ, the survey seems like it was likely a mistake on somebody's part and Wizards just confirmed it afterward so everybody wouldn't keep asking.

Also, has anyone notice that this breaks the two block story rule of having two revisited planes in a row followed by two new ones and then repeating? Because now it's:

Zendikar (old), Innistrad (old), Kaladesh (new), Amonkhet (new), Atlazan (new), ... ?

Seems odd for them to make a rule like that and just immediately break it.

December 8, 2016 11:19 p.m.

It was never a rule that wotc openly confirmed

December 8, 2016 11:43 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #21

sonnet666, WotC never explicitly stated that there would be a clear pattern to whether a block was set on a new plane or an existing plane; they simply have been doing what works best for the story.

December 9, 2016 12:01 a.m.

MagicalHacker says... #22

The rule wasn't about the order of blocks, it was about the ratio of new and returned planes.

December 9, 2016 12:59 a.m.

kanokarob says... #23

What MagicalHacker said. There's just supposed to be about 50% returns and 50% new planes moving forward. Doesn't mean they will literally hop back and forth between blocks or every two blocks or even three.

It could very well go

old, old, new, new new, old, new, old, old, new

That said, I too am not buying Wizards' statement on Atlazan. Seems fishy (punssss). Why not just use Amonkhet, with various different art styles? It's possible it won't be called Atlazan, or those won't be the packages, but it seems too well-done to be a simple packaging poll. It comes across as WotC being in denial that their leaks aren't plugged.

December 9, 2016 7:37 a.m.

Sloanan says... #24

Only thing I'm worried about is that Bolas is on the Hour of Devastation packaging and not the Amonkhet ones. Surely he'd appear first in Amonkhet, right? I feel like that's all but confirmed, unless I suppose the hour of devastation referred to in the title is like his return or something, I suppose...

December 9, 2016 1:10 p.m.

Bovine073 says... #25

Sloanan I think the problem will be that in most blocks from now on, because they are two sets, we won't ever be getting the big baddies until the second set of the block. I mean take Kaladesh for example, or SOI. The exception to this is certainly BFZ, but that was a slightly different scenario. I hope I'm wrong, though.

December 9, 2016 1:20 p.m.

Sloanan says... #26

@ Bovine073: Y'know, I didn't even think about that, but now that I'm seeing it that makes perfect sense and I'm not wild about it. I mean story-wise I guess it makes sense, but I'm itching for some Bolas action. Ah well, at least we'll be getting two of him next block (I'm assuming he's a shoo-in for a planeswalker deck).

December 9, 2016 2:57 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #27

Sloanan, Bolas is one of the most major villains in the current storyline, and he will obviously be the main antagonist of the Amonkhet block, so it would make sense to save his appearance for the second block of that set, rather than its first, for dramatic effect.

December 9, 2016 3:50 p.m.

Bad guy in Amonkhet: Bolas, appears in second half

Bad guy in Kaladesh: Tezzeret? Appears in Aether Revolt

Bad guy in Shadows: Emrakul, appears in Moon

Bad guy in BfZ: Kozilek, appears in Oath

Bad guy in Khans: Ugin, appears mid-way

Bad guy in Theros: Actually, I have no idea what the plot of Theros was

Bad guy in RtR: No idea

Bad guy in Innistrad: Griselbrand, appears in Avacyn Restored

Bad guy in Scars: All the Phyrexians, appear in New Phyrexia

Bad guy in Zendikar: Eldrazi, appear in RoE

Bad guy in Alara-ABUR: No idea about any of it

The primary antagonists are always referenced in the introduction to the block, but never appear until the end.

December 9, 2016 11:52 p.m.

kanokarob says... #29

Ugin wasn't the villain of Tarkir. Technically that block didn't have much of a villain beyond Zurgo. It was mostly just "BTW here's some Sarkhan and oh this guy who we've mentioned in passing that sealed the Eldrazi and oh guess what bolas is sorta here."

December 10, 2016 12:09 a.m.

DemonDragonJ

I was able to enjoy blocks like Kamigawa, Theros, and will likely enjoy Amonkhet because I have no vested interest in the accuracy of the mythology involved.

But I don't want to see them mess up Aztec mythology.

Think of it like not wanting there to be a reboot of your favorite 80s action movie.

It's good as is so why mess with it?

December 10, 2016 12:20 a.m.

Bovine073 says... #31

Yeah, wait what? Ugin was not the bad guy in KTK. It could be argued that Zurgo was (because the story was told from Sarkhan's perspective and he killed Narset) but all in all, the true enemy was Bolas because he was the one that actually killed Ugin in the Khans timeline.

December 10, 2016 12:41 a.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #32

Serendipitous_Hummingbird, that is a good analogy; although it is more of a comedy movie than an action movie, The Blues Brothers is one of my favorite movies from the 80's, and I do not believe that a reboot could possibly ever be as awesome as the original.

However, if there were to be a native American-themed block, it would not be a direct adaptation of native American folklore, just as Theros was not a direct adaptation of Greek mythology; WotC would make a block that was inspired by a real-world culture, but did not directly copy anything from it.

Are you a native American, if I may ask? That would explain why you have such an interest in their folklore.

December 10, 2016 9:52 a.m.

AwezomePozzum says... #33

Isn't there supposed to be a scheduled return block (AKA Ham, Eggs) after Amonkhet? I remember an article, I believe by MaRo, that confirmed this, but I don't know for sure.

December 28, 2016 5:35 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #34

AwezomePozzum, after two blocks set on new planes, I would not be surprised if the next block was set on a previous plane, but I doubt that that artwork could be fake, because artwork is expensive to commission, and WotC would not waste money on artwork that they never intended to use.

December 29, 2016 10:03 p.m.

AwezomePozzum says... #35

Maybe Atlazan is after the return block? I sure hope it is

December 30, 2016 1:24 p.m.

Phaetion says... #36

I thought it went:

New, New, Return, Return, New, New, Return, Return...etc.

December 30, 2016 2:25 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #37

Phaetion, the rule was about the ratio of returns to new planes, not about the order.

December 30, 2016 8:17 p.m.

Phaetion says... #38

I see. Thank you for the clarification.

December 30, 2016 8:53 p.m.

Lord of Atlazan - UU

Creature - Merfolk Lord

Other Merfolk you control get +1/+1 and islandwalk.

February 5, 2017 6:17 a.m.

Phaetion says... #40

Source?

February 5, 2017 8:35 a.m.

MagicalHacker says... #41

February 5, 2017 11:57 a.m.

Phaetion says... #42

Oh, ok. It's fake. I should've known. :/

February 5, 2017 12:57 p.m.

AwezomePozzum says... #43

Yeah, since they still have to do Amonkhet, and that return block scheduled after it.

February 5, 2017 2:39 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #44

Have they confirmed it's a return after Amonkhet?

February 5, 2017 4:50 p.m.

AwezomePozzum says... #45

Yes, the sets are codenamed "Ham" and "Eggs".

February 5, 2017 5:21 p.m.

Sorry, that's the Lord of Atlantis...darn dyslexia.

February 5, 2017 5:47 p.m.

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