Why WOTC don´t want anyone to play there new historic gamemode

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Posted on Sept. 27, 2019, 6:13 a.m. by Sarios254

Are I´m the only one how is pretty disappointed from the things WOTC do to historic I mean there is simply no real reason even to try historic:

  1. The Wildcard cost are so high that most of the new players are not able to play it

  2. They exclude the weekly missions for all players who wants to play historic

  3. There wasn´t any attempt to creat a commpetetive Historic scene before the players interventioned.

Why they try to push any player that wants to play historic away. that doesn´t make sense to me. Has anyone an explanation for me??

Sarios254 says... #2

And I forgot to mention that at this moment you can´t play historic in any form exept in the "play"-mode

September 27, 2019 6:17 a.m.

Boza says... #3

  1. They changed the wildcard cosback to its original 1:1 ratio.

  2. The weekly missions exist to support current standard environment and promote it

  3. Should there be one? Many formats, like Pauper and commander, originated from the players who supproted them and they were recognized as official formats years later.

  4. They did announce specific historic events will be coming and support for historic in the store (selling old packs). Any new format they create will divert attention from existing ones.

September 27, 2019 6:47 a.m.

This isn't unique to historic. WOTC tries to not support formats that aren't standard. Aside from masters sets, WOTC will never help people play formats that aren't standard. Which is unfortunate because standard is crap.

September 27, 2019 1:38 p.m.

Caerwyn says... #5

ToolmasterOfBrainerd

Except, of course, Modern Horizons. And the annual commander sets. And Conspiracy. And Battlebond. And...

Wizards promotes Standard more than other formats--that's just natural, it's where they're going to make the largest profit. But to say they "never help people" play formats other than Standard is extremely disingenuous. There are plenty of products each year designed specifically for non-Standard gameplay. Not to mention the fact that every new Standard-legal set has cards clearly designed to be viable in other formats.

September 28, 2019 1:21 a.m.

Modern horizons is this year's masters set, except without masters in the name. The minimal support they go give is appreciated, but modern decks shouldn't be routinely over $1000, with the cheapest (burn) still nearly $500. And the modern format has been crap for over a year, with Hogaak summer as the worst format experience in a long time. With the recent ban updates it's been a lot better, but major fixes have been long overdue. It doesn't change that I couldn't enjoy playing modern over the summer, and summer is the only time I get to play tournament magic. If I'm going to own thousand dollar decks then I feel entitled to an enjoyable experience. Not something so miserable that I'd rather sit at home and save $10 on entry.

September 28, 2019 1:37 a.m.

plusARGON says... #7

It's a money thing. Eternal formats aren't REPEAT business for WOTC. The ever more expensive secondary market doesn't make WOTC any money. They only way they can is by putting out "premium products", like the Masters sets, that have chase cards in them. Eternal decks change maybe one or two cards a set. Standard decks change huge amounts. People will shell out for packs due to hype and rotation. Historic isn't different. WOTC doesn't want people buying into a deck and playing on arena, then not buying more packs. If you aren't going to make them money anyway, why try and keep you around?

September 28, 2019 1:42 a.m.

Caerwyn says... #8

Or, to put it in different words, ToolmasterOfBrainerd, you don’t want Modern to get support - you want Modern to get support that behooves you.

And if supporting your narrative means you have to overlook the fact that Modern has received a huge influx of new toys in Modern Horizon, and the very-eternal-friendly War of the Spark. so be it.

September 28, 2019 2:03 a.m.

Standard was invented and designed from the ground up to help prevent the prevailing problem that Magic, at the time, and every other collectible/trading card game ever has had: A growing card pool generates powercreep naturally. Eternal formats in any game filter out all but the best of the best of the best cards ever printed in their given game. Guaranteeing that a smaller and smaller percentage of new cards become relevant to the game. This creates a crossroads in card design. You either: Make the new cards powerful enough to draw attention to get sales, helping contribute to the powercreep problem until the game goes completely out of hand, or, you make the new cards not powerful enough to powercreep the game further, and cause your sales to flop massively. Standard was, and is, WotC's solution to this paradox.

That in mind, why would they ever take their focus off of it? When you consider what Standard is, what its purpose is, what do you think WotC has to gain from putting any less than 90% of their efforts into supporting Standard?

If anything, I'm somewhat surprised Historic exists at all. WotC puts an almost unreasonable amount of time, money, and effort into supporting the very thing Standard was designed to fix, because they've learned that some of their players enjoy it. It's a hard thing to divide support across so many different formats, especially when the one that was supposed to be your magnum opus demands your full attention.

September 28, 2019 9:47 p.m.

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