W/U Control Question

Modern forum

Posted on Jan. 30, 2018, 9:08 p.m. by Chiberia

I have been looking at Approach of the Second Sun for a number of months, and have always enjoyed a control deck. Could an W/U control deck with Approach as a win-con be viable in anyway?

I would say it's already, probably a top tier deck in the format.

January 30, 2018 9:14 p.m.

Chiberia says... #3

UpperDeckerTaco

Im trying to get into modern, Commander is my main format, but I do love that it is really good;)!

Thank you!

January 30, 2018 9:17 p.m.

My apologies, i just noticed that this is a modern forum. I would say it's plausible, the only issue being that it's a rather hefty CMC for the format. If there was a way to cast it for cheap or free, it would be a lot better, and there may be a way, I just haven't thought of one yet.

January 30, 2018 9:26 p.m.

shadow63 says... #5

I think it could be really good if you made a super heavy control list but it would be pricey maybe go esper or American

January 30, 2018 9:47 p.m.

hannibal6 says... #6

I think if you're trying to win by resolving a 7 mana spell multiple times, Cruel Ultimatum is going to be more impactful almost every time. I think its tough for approach the second sun to compete in that space in the format, even with the shift in color.

January 30, 2018 10:01 p.m.

TheAnnihilator says... #7

UW Control is very viable, but there's better things to run than Approach. =)

January 30, 2018 10:26 p.m.

hannibal6

Is correct. Cruel Control is more viable. And unfortunately, currently not viable.

shadow63

Also correct. I can't imagine the card ever working but if it had a shot, Esper probably.

TheAnnihilator

Correct. And yeah, that card is too expensive.

January 30, 2018 10:32 p.m.

lukas96 says... #9

Why should cruel ultimatum be more viable?Its for a completely different deck. And also costs 7 and doesnt win you the game.

UW control is a decent deck. Approach should not be our only win con but a one of could be fine.

January 31, 2018 5:06 a.m.

MollyMab says... #10

lukas96 Cruel puts you up 7 cards on your opponent, causes a 10 life swing and kills something. Approach the first time does very little besides gain you life.

I don't think Approach is a viable win con in Modern, to be honest. The issue is the counters in the format are that much better, the decks that beat face beat that much quicker, and the combos who are doing similar things are that much quicker.

I did use to have 2 Approach in the sideboard of 4c Scapeshift, for a bit of fun. It was pretty easy to churn through the deck as well with Peer Through Depths.

January 31, 2018 5:17 a.m.

lukas96 says... #11

Cruel has exactly the same problems as aproach. Both shouldnt be the first and only win con of a control deck.

January 31, 2018 5:42 a.m.

Cruel Ultimatum does have the same problem... except it does more. It is easier to win off of Cruel Ultimatum, than it is Approach of the Second Sun. If you're in , and you want a high end win con not named Elspeth, Sun's Champion, then go for it. But if you are looking to play control in an undecided color shell, and you are choosing between approach and ultimatum, ultimatum is just the better card.

January 31, 2018 11:32 a.m.

lukas96 says... #13

in general I would prefer a win con thats not as fragile.

UW control is a decent deck. if you want to have Approach in there go for it but you should have some other fincons in the deck.

to answer your question: UW control with Approach is viable if its not the only wincon. Without any other sort of wincon its not viable

January 31, 2018 1:40 p.m.

Chiberia says... #14

Well this got more replies than I would have anticipated, I am just trying to make something to call my own lol, but I love control! Ill find my way, thank you all

January 31, 2018 3:01 p.m.

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