What are the top 10 Card Advantage 'Enablers' in Modern ?
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Posted on Dec. 9, 2014, 6:05 p.m. by forestlore44
I have a pretty good idea of what most of top few of them are, I just wanted to hear peoples thoughts on how to rank them. So what's your picks?
slovakattack says... #4
That kind of thing would have to be broken down by color. Off the top of my head...
Blue: Serum Visions, Treasure Cruise (situational), Gitaxian Probe, Remand, Snapcaster Mage (advantage through recursion)
Black: Dark Confidant, Griselbrand (situational), Phyrexian Arena, Sign in Blood, Liliana of the Veil (advantage through grind, usually combined with recursive cards like Lingering Souls that make your own discarding negligible.
Red: Faithless Looting
December 9, 2014 6:29 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #5
I imagine the question is: What cards are the best at generating card advantage?
Here are some off the top of my head:
Dig Through Time, Treasure Cruise, Dark Confidant, Cryptic Command, Electrolyze, Young Pyromancer
I am very sure I missed something incredibly important.
December 9, 2014 6:31 p.m.
slovakattack says... #6
GlistenerAgent: Derp, completely forgot Dig Through Time. xD
December 9, 2014 6:33 p.m.
forestlore44 says... #7
I meant Card advantage 'engines' in the likes of Birthing Pod or Treasure Cruise. Oh crap, there ain't a whole lot them ones. Maybe is should of done a top 5 instead but you get the idea.
Anyway mine are:
December 9, 2014 6:34 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #8
Serum Visions isn't card advantage. It's card filtering. I think Snapcaster Mage should be on the list.
December 9, 2014 6:45 p.m.
fluffybunnypants says... #10
I'm not sure I'd refer to Dig Through Time as an engine, it's just a spell. An engine is usually what makes things go, like the Sensei's Divining Top + any fetch interaction that gives legacy Miracles its card selection. So, I'd say the Birthing Pod + Persist creatures is an advantage engine.
I'd say for raw card advantage cards you're looking at, in no particular order, Dig Through Time, Treasure Cruise, Remand, Serum Visions and Dark Confidant.
December 9, 2014 7:06 p.m.
selesvyaloverer8 says... #11
Birthing Pod is an engine because it allows you to upgrade your creatures every turn and outvalue your opponent especially because of multi-use creatures like Voice of Resurgence, Kitchen Finks, Reveillark, Murderous Redcap, or Ranger of Eos. But even without these creatures it still rocks
December 9, 2014 8:54 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #12
Keen Sense Think Twice Sphinx's Revelation Remand Dark Confidant Phyrexian Arena Treasure Cruise Dig Through Time Cryptic Command Desolate Lighthouse
December 10, 2014 1:29 a.m.
fluffybunnypants says... #13
Generally an engine has moving parts (that's plural) and Pod isn't good on its own, it needs the right creatures to do well. Example: Podding away a Monastery Swiftspear for a Seeker of the Way is a shitty play, but podding into Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to win the game is a great play.
December 10, 2014 7:18 a.m.
Wouldn't Remand and Serum Visions be considered card neutral (if that is the term)? I suppose Remand could generate card advantage in certain situations?
December 10, 2014 7:04 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #15
Remand generates tempo, Serum Visions is card filtering. They achieve different benefits than raw card advantage.
December 10, 2014 7:06 p.m.
Yeah, that's what I thought. Cheers for the info GlistenerAgent. Personally, I would think a card advantage "engine" would be something that gets you cards repeatedly without further mana investment, like Phyrexian Arena or Dark Confidant?
December 10, 2014 7:12 p.m.
Ha. Just saw it says "enablers" not "engines", I need to learn to read. My bad.
December 10, 2014 7:15 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #18
If you're looking for the best card advantage engine in the format (something that can generate card advantage every turn instead of a one-time event), it's far and away Birthing Pod.
CrazyLittleGuy says... #2
You mean cards that setup good card advantage scenarios? Or cards that just provide good card advantage? Example; Thought Scour to setup Treasure Cruise versus a straight-up Electrolyze.
December 9, 2014 6:10 p.m.