Vendetta in Modern

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Posted on May 6, 2019, 3:04 p.m. by Funkydiscogod

Why doesn't the card Vendetta see more play in Modern? Is it the life loss that scares people away?

If we look at the most played creatures in Modern, the black ones are:

So, yeah there are a few creatures that it doesn't get, but is that enough to make it unplayable? It seems like a relatively short list of modern-playable creatures that it can't hurt.

I mean, yeah, occasionally a Grim Flayer will murder your face off, but what do you guys think? How would Vendetta perform in the current metagame?

abby315 says... #2

I think it competes too hard with more efficient removal in various colors.

Path to Exile is just more of a failsafe in all white decks (even with the land - the downside of life-loss against aggressive decks is probably even worse than an extra basic). Assassin's Trophy in concert with Abrupt Decay is more versatile and good against countermagic in BG, which is the biggest archetype that would otherwise use this card. Red decks just want Bolt and there aren't many RB decks that aren't a combo, because it's not a strong color pairing.

I could maybe see it in a UB control list, but there's a reason most control shells have white, too!

Black doesn't shine outside of white or green, and where it might, modern has such good lands that it just doesn't normally make sense not to splash. Hence BUG instead of UB midrange, Jund instead of RB, Esper instead of UB control, etc.

And lifeloss is a sneakily big deal in modern with such ridiculously aggressive decks as Phoenix, Dredge, and burn.

May 6, 2019 3:16 p.m. Edited.

abby315 says... #3

Yeesh, I forgot about Fatal Push , too, even though you didn't. I will say, though, the one deck that may care is 8-Rack. It's really the only mono-black deck that wants to be mono-black, so it could be a consideration for the sideboard. I don't know enough about the deck, though, to say whether it's a card the strategy needs.

May 6, 2019 3:24 p.m.

clayperce says... #4

Three reasons:

May 6, 2019 3:28 p.m.

8vomit says... #5

Also if you're playing against tron, its essentially unusable.

May 6, 2019 3:32 p.m.

Spairut says... #6

Seems good… In sideboard , cant target black creatures and is more of a disadvantage on big creatures so it shines in early game , it is good vs goblins or burn or auras it can save you the day in those situations but fatal push will do the job better . though i think i could give it a try it is a very interesting card that it could work in a life loss mechanic or something like that

May 6, 2019 7:16 p.m.

DuTogira says... #7

I think rather than asking “where can’t I use this?” It’s better to ask “where is Vendetta good?”

Against big creature decks, it’s bad in multiples, as you will just end up killing your self with it.
Against aggro it’s bad because your life total matters a lot.
Against control it’s probably fine.
Against combo it’s likely fine.

So... Vendetta is a creature removal spell that is at its worst against creature-centric decks, and at its best against decks that win by some mean other than creature combat (and therefore leverage creatures incidentally -control- or indirectly -combo-). That’s a really awkward spot for a modern removal spell to be in.

May 6, 2019 7:54 p.m.

Demarge says... #8

There are many interesting removal spells in modern one can mess around with just as there's a ton of weird 1 cmc cantrips in modern with weird effects, if you think it'd be cool to try out, try it out

May 7, 2019 2:54 a.m.

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