More Firebirds?

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Posted on Dec. 16, 2018, 1:20 a.m. by Flooremoji

Hey, I got to thinking, and what I thought was: Arclight Phoenix could use Chandra's Phoenix. I know it won't be reanimated, making it one of the lower rated phoenixes, but it makes all your discard spells (Faithless, Chart, Tormenting) so much more powerful when combined with a Bolt. This let's you discard more non-Bolt cards, and let's you 'Combo' more. This applies more to Runaway Red then UR Arclight.

Dredge4life says... #2

The power of Arclight Phoenix is its ability to go directly into play. Chandra's Phoenix unfortunately only goes back to your hand, so I don’t think it’s worth the include. It’s a cool card, though.

December 16, 2018 10:26 a.m.

Flooremoji says... #3

Dredge4life. I am aware I mentioned it^^, I thought that recurring fodder for Faithless Looting Tormenting Voice would be nice after playing Runaway Red.

December 16, 2018 11:35 a.m.

Dredge4life says... #4

I would think that Squee, Goblin Nabob would be better for that, and that still would be too clunky. Phoenix just doesn’t do enough for a three mana spell in Modern. A 2/2 for 3 isn’t going to cut it in a deck that’s trying to fire up multiple 3/2s in a single turn.

December 16, 2018 1:05 p.m.

Flooremoji says... #5

Ah, but Dredge4life, Squee, Goblin Nabob doesn't return to your hand multiple times a turn, which is crucial if your plan to be actually gaining value with faithless.

December 16, 2018 3:04 p.m.

Dredge4life says... #6

The situation where you want to go Looting, Bolt, Looting, Bolt seems very win-more to me. If the payoff for RRRR is to put a three mana 2/2 flyer into your hand after casting four spells, then I don’t think it’s worth it.

December 16, 2018 9:07 p.m.

Flooremoji says... #7

ok, got it thanks Dredge4life.

December 16, 2018 9:09 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #8

Another possible one is Flamewake Phoenix.

Are you going for a typical heavy burn deck? Perhaps using Grapeshot?

Because you could run bois like Kiln Fiend who will grow so quickly that you can return Flamewake Phoenix almost constantly.

December 17, 2018 7:15 a.m.

Flooremoji says... #9

TypicalTimmy I was looking at recurring hand fodder, not more reanimation :). Instead of Grapeshot, Runaway Red uses Shrine of Burning Rage, I can see the argument for GS though. Kiln Fiend can just be chumped, and I already have enough two-drops. Thanks for the suggestions though, I will try them anyway. :)

December 17, 2018 1:03 p.m.

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