Melira Pod without Pod
Modern forum
Posted on April 20, 2015, 7:14 a.m. by pleasiodmakerblooloo
Hi guys, I've been playing for about two years, although this was only standard. I'm wanting to get into modern. While I've never had a modern deck I have kept up with modern to know about the format and the decks that are played and how they are played, so I'm not a complete noob. I was just wondering if, for my first deck, the Melira, Sylvok Outcast / Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit combo with Collected Company and Congregation at Dawn is viable. I know that it isn't as strong as it's more powerful predecessor , but is it good enough to be played with and win? Just looking for advice, thanks.
I'd rather play Collected Company in Aristocrats, but this looks cool.
April 20, 2015 7:26 a.m.
lemmingllama says... #5
It can work, and you can win games with it. However, I wouldn't expect to be able to consistently beat tier 1 decks with it, since it isn't fully competitive. It is still a good place to get into Modern, and you will likely have some success at local FNMs
April 20, 2015 7:42 a.m.
KrosanTusker says... #6
I think it could work, but Congregation at Dawn is not good. You'd much rather have Chord of Calling.
April 20, 2015 9 a.m.
It's an awkward deck. Not better than Abzan honestly, and it will never be as reliable as Pod was.
April 20, 2015 9:08 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #8
I've actually been fiddling around with a bant hatebears brew in a Collected Company shell, with things like Mangara of Corondor, Spellskite, Eternal Witness and Kira, Great Glass-Spinner.
April 20, 2015 10:59 a.m.
April 20, 2015 11:41 a.m.
Hjaltrohir says... #10
IT has placed ok in some recent events and sure it is fine. I would much rather play Wilted or Little Kid Junk though, as JexInfinite said.
April 20, 2015 12:47 p.m.
the deck kicks ass at my LGS,alot of people are building it over here and going 3-0 qith it. i know its obviously not a huge tournament by any means but its definitely not a bad deck.
April 20, 2015 3:22 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #12
Collected Company itself kicks ass, however I don't particularly like the combo shell most people are sticking it in. Instead, I'd rather see it in either a beatdown build full of voices, goys, KotRs and Finks or a hate build full of meta cards like Kira, Mirran, Firewalker and Skite. I think it works better in a hate shell purely because then you get access to really deck-breaking cards like Gaddock Teeg, Magus of the Moon, Vendilion Clique and Kataki, War's Wage.
Another thing, is that infinite life doesn't actually win you the game. If the opponent can win through infinite combo, beat you with infect, or prove to have a much better board state than you, you are kinda screwed. You need Murderous Redcap to be able to win through those cards, and Collected Company sure doesn't help there. In this, you are at a distinct disadvantage as the opponent just needs to remove your Viscera Seer.
Instead, I think just a regular persist deck would do well, if, you know, persist didn't cost so god damn freaking much.
April 20, 2015 6:33 p.m.
Femme_Fatale, I agree with many things you're saying and I love the potential Collected Company has especially because it is an instant. However, it is hard to lose after comboing off with Anafenza/Viscera/Finks, because you get to scry any card you'd like to the top of your deck, regardless of when they break up the combo. If they remove Viscera Seer, you could put another one on top and continue to combo off after that. And if you use Melira, you can't still die to infect.
April 20, 2015 8:50 p.m.
KrosanTusker says... #14
I think that, were CC to be a tier 1 deck (with as many people testing it for as long as that implies), we'd see a shift away from combo towards efficient creature-based midrangey type decks, full of silver bullets, with an optional combo finish -- exactly what happened to Pod.
I do like Femme's idea of a hatebears shell, or the Goyf/Voice/Finks weenie deck (which I think might just be better, but I don't know if it's better than Little Kid, and I'm not sure that's even very good. Heck, I'm not sure CC itself actually lives up to the hype. Time will tell).
April 21, 2015 5:44 p.m.
I dont think people really want to run it in little kid junk for some reason. Probably just because for 4 mana, you have a lot to lose.
April 21, 2015 5:47 p.m.
KrosanTusker says... #16
I hadn't actually though of running it in little kid. At four, in that deck, I think it's just better to jam Rhinos and Wilt-Leaf Lieges. That may actually prove to be the case for all the decks that would run CC.
April 21, 2015 5:50 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #17
It isn't good in little kid Junk. Like, I tried it, but it was horrible. The thing with CC is that it functions as card draw to find and drop those 1 ofs and 2 ofs at a much faster rate. I have much more success with beating RDW, Twin and Abzan with a CC BantBears deck than I have ever gotten with a CC LittleKid deck. CC clogs the hand in which you would rather be running things like Abrupt Decay, Siege Rhino or Wilt-Leaf Liege. And the things it brings to the table don't necessarily provide you any advantage because they are nothing but beaters or mana dorks. Whereas a CC in a bears deck could easily find you that one card that just hates on the entire deck you are facing.
Think about it like a DTT. Because that is essentially what it functions as. Would you run DTT in an aggro-midrange deck? Or would you run it in a more midrange-control deck?
April 21, 2015 6:20 p.m.
KrosanTusker says... #18
Yeah, I thought as much.
I must say, your Bantbears deck looks sweet. In that sort of deck, I think you definitely want CC. I guess I'd have to test with the card before passing final judgement on it.
JexInfinite says... #2
Not competitive viable. Better to play Little Kid Abzan.
April 20, 2015 7:18 a.m.