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Counter Spell?

Modern forum

Posted on March 15, 2019, 9:39 a.m. by NyxDragon

Hello all. Im looking for a good budget counter spell for modern. Im open to non budget options just incase i get them. I generally use mana leak But a lot of people say its not that good. Keep in mind, Im just playing kitchen table magic as well.

Icbrgr says... #2

i respectfully disagree with the statements Mana Leak being no good.... its essentially a Counterspell up untill T4/T5 with 1-2CMC spells.... but i suppose if your aiming at an indiscriminate hard counter (in mono blue) with no strings attached go with Dissolve . It costs 3 mana but gives you some topdeck manipulation unlike Cancel . which both are perfectly fine for kitchen table modern imo.

March 15, 2019 9:51 a.m.

NyxDragon says... #3

Dissolve does look good, but I do have a way of top deck manipulation. May still us it, Thanks!

March 15, 2019 10:10 a.m.

Caerwyn says... #4

If you are looking at 3 mana counterspells, I would say Disallow is a better than Dissolve . The added utility of being able to counter activated or triggered abilities is pretty nifty and can often catch players by surprise.

Logic Knot is another card to consider running 2-3 copies of. While it is not very good in the early game, it can be quite potent later on. Since most blue decks dump a large number of counterspells and cantrips (cards like Opt ) into the graveyard, you have plenty of fuel for Logic Knot 's delve. Further, it works rather well alongside Mana Leak , as Logic Knot starts becoming useful at about the same time Mana Leak 's utility drops.

March 15, 2019 10:26 a.m.

Deprive is also a decent budget option

March 15, 2019 10:31 a.m.

smackjack says... #6

Familiar's Ruse is good if you have ETB creatures

March 15, 2019 10:53 a.m.

NyxDragon says... #7

Both good ideas! Thanks

March 15, 2019 11:03 a.m.

Kman8301 says... #8

Might I recommend Insidious Will ? Yes, it’s more expensive, but in Jeskai Control combined with mana leak, it allows for some cool interactions.

March 15, 2019 12:33 p.m.

Simizzet916 says... #9

I'm in favor of Rune Snag and Spell Pierce . But that's just if you're playing mono blue. In Modern, there are some decent options in multicolored, like Mystic Snake , which is probably my favorite card, for flavor. And if you're open to more casual (not Modern legal) options, there's Absorb and Arcane Denial

March 15, 2019 12:47 p.m.

tpmains says... #10

Simizzet916 Absorb was just reprinted in GRN, so it's Standard and Modern Legal now.

March 15, 2019 2:18 p.m.

Flooremoji says... #11

Simizzet916: Mystic Snake isn't modern, however Frilled Mystic is. :)

March 15, 2019 3:45 p.m.

lukas96 says... #12

that basically depends on what kind of deck you play or what kind of decks you play against

March 15, 2019 3:58 p.m.

Pieguy396 says... #13

Mana Leak is probably the best 2-mana option (unless you can abuse Familiar's Ruse ), and Disallow and Absorb are the best 3-mana options.

March 15, 2019 4:52 p.m.

smackjack says... #14

March 16, 2019 9:27 a.m.

Flooremoji says... #15

smackjack: Stupid timeshifted card! :) You got me. :)

March 16, 2019 12:15 p.m.

GreenFire317 says... #16

March 16, 2019 8:32 p.m.

Pieguy396 says... #17

GreenFire317 Dash Hopes is unplayably bad, and Circular Logic isn't legal in Modern.

March 17, 2019 11:14 a.m.

GreenFire317 says... #18

Pieguy396 Well no one but new people play modern, standard, legacy or anything else 60 card formatted. Its all commander. Then in modern Dash Hopes is exceptionally fantastic, because either they dont get to play things or they pay 25% of their life total. Your opponent cant handle paying 5 life for 2 or definitely 3 of them.

March 17, 2019 12:55 p.m.

lukas96 says... #19

GreenFire317 Thats first of all not true and second of all thats the modern forum. Dash hopes is unplayable garbadge. No one plays it.

March 17, 2019 1:50 p.m.

Pieguy396 says... #20

GreenFire317 I might be misreading, but your first sentence looks like you're trying to say that only new Magic players play 60-card formats. If so, that statement is hilariously false. The issue with Dash Hopes is that any deck that's looking to play the long game (i.e. wants Counterspell ) rarely tries to kill its opponent fast enough that 5 life is worth a card. There's a reason the card is a common. Show me a Modern deck that made Day 2 at a GP or similar event that plays Dash Hopes . I'll wait.

March 17, 2019 3:08 p.m.

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