What should be changed??
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Posted on March 5, 2019, 4:13 p.m. by abenz419
I want to put this together, Mono Blue Eldrazi. It's similar to the old eldrazi list, but I loved playing my 4 color deck that utilized Elder Deep-Fiend in standard so I want to use it now in modern. 26 lands feels like it may be too much but not sure where I can cut it. I obviously need colorless mana, but also need enough blue to cast Elder Deep-Fiend for it's emerge cost. Anyone have any suggestions? Is there something I'm missing?
@captainamerica I've made some changes to try and accommodate expedition map. Do you think this helps?
Also, what do you think about swapping Unclaimed Territory for Cascade Bluffs ? I still keep my colorless numbers up, can be filtered for double blue, and can produce red so I can run Kozilek's Return in the sideboard.
March 5, 2019 5:28 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #4
Definitely run Expedition Map . I'd move Warping Wail to the SB and cut Eternal Scourge completely.
I'd trim either 1x Sanctum of Ugin or 1x Unclaimed Territory .
I'd also probably run Watery Grave over the basics and/or the U/B pain land over Unclaimed Territory .
March 5, 2019 5:35 p.m.
@APPLE01DOJ Why cut Eternal Scourge ? I know from my experience playing Elder Deep-Fiend in standard that it's at it's best when curving a 3 drop into flashing it in on your opponents upkeep the next turn because sacrificing a 3 drop makes the deep-fiend cost only 4. So I want to try and make sure that I'm playing a 3 drop on either turn 2 or 3.
A for swapping Unclaimed Territory . I feel like that might be a good option and was considering doing it for Cascade Bluffs because it allows me to have colorless, double blue, and red mana so I can run Kozilek's Return out of the sideboard. I do understand why you'd suggest the u/b lands though because of Dismember . I guess there will be times where I can't afford 4 life. What do you think about swapping the basics for Watery Grave and Unclaimed Territory for Cascade Bluffs ? This way I have black mana sometimes for dismember and still have blue to filter into Cascade Bluffs so I can also run Kozilek's Return in the sideboard.
March 5, 2019 5:51 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #6
I really don't think you need kozileks return. Black mana gives you plenty of sweepers already.
If you do insist on Grixis then I'd strongly recommend Desolate Lighthouse .
Eternal Scourge is totally valid to run but I think you have better options at your disposal. You're running blue and black how about some discard or counter spells?
March 5, 2019 9:45 p.m.
@APPLE01DOJ we're talking about two slots in the deck. I don't think it's worth swapping Eternal Scourge for a couple of discard spells or a couple of counter spells. Especially since hitting my colored sources aren't that easy. Play testing the deck, I end up hard casting Elder Deep-Fiend off the extra mana I get from Eldrazi Temple and the tron lands a lot. That also makes Desolate Lighthouse not really an option. I'm already having a problem cutting lands, so it'd be even harder trying to cut a land in order to add another who's ability I'll almost never get to use. There are only 4 total blue sources right now (which I feel is too little) along with 4 filter lands (which I"m considering turning into Shivan Reef just so I have more dedicated blue sources)
March 6, 2019 8:23 a.m.
@APPLE01DOJ we're talking about two slots in the deck. I don't think it's worth swapping Eternal Scourge for a couple of discard spells or a couple of counter spells. Especially since hitting my colored sources aren't that easy. Play testing the deck, I end up hard casting Elder Deep-Fiend off the extra mana I get from Eldrazi Temple and the tron lands a lot. That also makes Desolate Lighthouse not really an option. I'm already having a problem cutting lands, so it'd be even harder trying to cut a land in order to add another who's ability I'll almost never get to use. There are only 4 total blue sources right now (which I feel is too little) along with 4 filter lands (which I"m considering turning into Shivan Reef just so I have more dedicated blue sources)
March 6, 2019 8:25 a.m.
Flooremoji says... #9
Just in case you forgot, (many people do) you need a colored mana to filter with the Filter lands. :)
March 6, 2019 12:48 p.m.
@Flooremoji Yeah after hearing people out during the various questions I've asked on here and after discussing things with some friends of mine.... the deck has changed a decent amount.
I feel like this is the best version of the deck so far. 12 blue sources to cast EDF, 7 black to cast the cards out of the board (9 if it's Distended Mindbender ), 7 red sources to cast Kozilek's Return , and still has 21 colorless sources.
captainamerica says... #2
Ok so 1, you should run Expedition Map to ensure that third urza land
2 you could run maybe a 1 of evolving wilds but I think it's not worth it
3 maybe try some mono-blue urzatron lists
March 5, 2019 5:05 p.m.