twin cast the twin cast?

Modern Deck Help forum

Posted on Feb. 28, 2018, 7:16 p.m. by Pownu

if i were to play a spell, maybe a Desperate Ritual, then Twincast it, and then Twincast the first twincast, and then Redirect the first twincast onto the second twincast, would that yield me infinite spells? or would it just be two spells that do nothing.

Entrei says... #2

well yes, but those infinite spells wouldn't really do too much. They wouldn't trigger storm (they copies aren't cast). Additionally, on resolution the original would go off of the stack, making an infinite loop of twincasts. the moment you target something else, the loop breaks.

Hope this helped

February 28, 2018 7:42 p.m.

Matt_The_OGRE says... #3

Stack : Desperate Ritual, 1st Twincast targeting ritual, 2nd Twincast targeting 1st twincast, Redirect targeting 1st twincast

Once Redirect resolves, the stack looks like : Desperate Ritual, 1st Twincast targeting 2nd twincast, 2nd Twincast targeting 1st twincast.

Once second Twincast resolves, the stack looks like : Desperate Ritual, 1st Twincast targeting 2nd twincast, copy of 1st Twincast targeting 2nd twincast.

As the copy and original try to copy the second twincast, they fizzle since the second twincast is no longer on the stack.

You can change the copy of the 1st twincast to target the original twin cast to make anothger copy of the 1st twincast. This can repeat infinitely but will not add to a storm count since non of the copies are ever cast.

February 28, 2018 7:50 p.m.

Matt_The_OGRE says... #4

Actually, if you can get to the last step of my last post, then counter the Desperate Ritual, this will result in the game coming to a draw. This happens since the only possible target for the copy of the Twincast is the original Twincast.

February 28, 2018 8:01 p.m.

Pownu says... #5

Matt_The_OGRE alright that makes sense that they are not cast. if you do end up with infinite spells though, is there any way to exploit that?

February 28, 2018 8:03 p.m.

filthyc4sual says... #6

Can you redirect all of them to Desperate Ritual somehow? If so you gain infinite red mana

February 28, 2018 8:16 p.m.

Entrei says... #7

First of all it will never be infinite. It creates the copy on resolution(simultaneously to hitting the graveyard) Because of this, there can only ever be two Twincasts on the stack.

February 28, 2018 8:19 p.m.

Please login to comment