need to cut at least 2 lands

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Posted on March 6, 2019, 2:57 a.m. by abenz419

I need to cut at least two lands from my deck, Mono Blue Eldrazi. I don't know where to make the cuts though. I need enough blue sources that I can hit the double blue for Elder Deep-Fiend without sacrificing the ability to cast the colorless creatures too. I feel like the lands I currently have are all important. The temples and tron lands to produce large amounts of mana quickly. the Watery Grave and Cascade Bluffs to help cast the deep-fiends, dismembers, and Kozilek's Return out of the sideboard. Sanctum of Ugin helps chain together deep-fiends.

What do you guys think, where can I make the cuts, and why? In testing, the deck floods out regularly with 26 lands. I feel like 23 or 24 is probably ideal.

Boza says... #2

Cut the sanctums - I get needing to chain the EDFs, but if you are doing that, you are probably winning. Additionally, why dual lands in a mono-colored deck? Just add islands in order to be at least a little bit less susceptible to Blood Moon .

March 6, 2019 7:11 a.m. Edited.

SP3CTR3_chelts says... #3

I concer with Boza.

March 6, 2019 8:14 a.m.

abenz419 says... #4

The duel lands are there because they offer the ability to play things out of the sideboard. Hand disruption like Thoughtseize and Distended Mindbender along with Kozilek's Return . But in all honesty, after talking to some friends of mine and based on various things said during the many questions I've been asking on here. The deck has changed a decent amount since I posted this.

Mono Blue Eldrazi copy

I feel like this version has the best mana base with 13 blue sources to cast EDF. 7 black sources to cast things out of the sideboard, 9 if it's Distended Mindbender . And 7 red sources for Kozilek's Return out of the sideboard as well. It also has 21 colorless sources as well. This version also uses Wretched Gryff . It's a 3/4 flyer that typically cost 3 mana and draws a card on cast. It also triggers Sanctum of Ugin so I can tutor for Elder Deep-Fiend , Thought-Knot Seer , or Reality Smasher depending on what's the most relevant at the time.

March 6, 2019 4:01 p.m.

SP3CTR3_chelts says... #5

I do prefer the new mana base! Have you played it much since the change?

March 8, 2019 4:32 a.m.

abenz419 says... #6

@SP3CTR3_chelts I played some games on friday against my friends mono red arclight phoenix burn deck. It actually did really well. Out of the 6 or 7 games we got to play in between FNM rounds it won like 4 of them. Which I thought was a pretty good sign, because my mana base can be painful at times so I figure burn probably isn't the greatest matchup for me. Elder Deep-Fiend probably single handedly won me 2 of those games as well, so I'm glad it was worth the effort trying to make the mana base work to include him.

March 9, 2019 10:58 p.m.

SP3CTR3_chelts says... #7

That is great news I'm glad you managed to sort your problem whilst keeping the Fiend!

March 15, 2019 8:50 a.m.

abenz419 says... #8

@SP3CTR3_chelts yeah I actually kind of missed playing him. I ran this sultai deck (with a red splash) when he was legal in standard. It was so much fun. It Prized Amalgam , Haunted Dead , and some graveyard enablers like Vessel of Nascency , Grapple with the Past , and Noose Constrictor .

It was pretty consistent at getting a Haunted Dead into the graveyard early, then pitching a Prized Amalgam or two to bring it back during my opponents upkeep, then in response to the ETB trigger on Haunted Dead sac it to Elder Deep-Fiend to tap all their lands down (triggering Sanctum of Ugin and Kozilek's Return when needed) leaving me with amalgams, a spirit, and elder deep-fiend and then repeating the process. Essentially time walking my opponent from turn 4 and on. I'll have to see if I can remember the deck list so I can show it to ya some time. It really was a blast to play.

March 15, 2019 5:40 p.m.

abenz419 says... #9

here's the deck list (at least close to it). This is about as close as I can remember. There is a couple of cards missing but for the most part this was the essentials of the deck.

4 color deep-fiend

March 15, 2019 6:02 p.m.

unfortunately I only started playing midway through Kaladesh so I was just getting into and enjoying SOI and how awesome that block was when I rotated so I missed out on lots of amazing cards and combos like this. I have a few of these cards so I may make and try it out casually it looks really quite fun!

The fact that Elder-deep fiend has flash is ridiculous!

March 18, 2019 4:42 a.m.

abenz419 says... #11

@SP3CTR3_chelts it's a lot of fun for the person playing it..... no so much for the people you're playing against lol

March 18, 2019 12:54 p.m.

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