Izzet pyromancer?

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Posted on July 22, 2018, 7:29 p.m. by 6ixer

Honestly it was just a random thought the other day... What about blue red pyromancer. I've played the traditional mardu and I wanted to switch it up a little.

So my big questions are Would it be more control or tempo?

What's over kill when you have cards like faithless looting serum visions opt and peek.

Creatures like delver pyromancer reveler. Thing in the ice. Enigma Drake. All cards that run off of an instant sorcery build. But the over thought is how many creatures is too much to optimize on the whole sorceries idea.

Also

Back a year ago I saw a blue moon list that control deck. It was red blue control with thing in the ice as the win con ... Now can it be done that way...?? Play thing in the ice, delver and reveler with the rest of typical control... I want to play izzet any ideas ....Right direction. Please thanks

xyr0s says... #2

I think you'll have to build for aggression. Pyromancer is only good when you play a lot of spells. Snapcaster Mage is necessary in this deck (and goes well with TITI anyway), and a bunch of cheap spells.

July 22, 2018 8:30 p.m.

6ixer says... #3

So it would be mid range ish

So delver snap caster young pyromancer TITI and reveler or do I cut one of them and I play remands I take it? Cryptic commands??

July 22, 2018 9:13 p.m.

6ixer says... #4

Or do I just play straight blue red control and play only delver snap and thing in the ice with JTMS ... That or u was thinking blue white miracle s

July 22, 2018 9:14 p.m.

6ixer says... #5

*that I was also thinking about miracles...

Also cards like

Enigma Drake and Runechanter's Pike Caught my eye they just look decent

July 22, 2018 9:19 p.m.

EmblemMan says... #6

I'm surprised this was not brought up yet but barely a year ago UR pyro was a deck. Kind of right before mardu came out. Here is a list its basically a tempo/control deck. Not particularly aggressive and pretty heavily reliant on either grinding with pyro or just hitting hard with thing in the ice. There is also this more recent UR Fae deck by Jeff Hoogland. This deck is much more tempo/burn and relies on delver, flying faeries, and the multiple bolts to get there. I personally think that the UR Fae would probably be better because I don't think that UR pyro has the right threats to counterspell ratio, whereas the delver deck can pressure while disrupting. You could also take a more "mardu pyro" stance and play revelers and faithless looting but really the power of mardu pyro is discarding Lingering Souls so you are rarely down on card advantage and UR just doesn't have that. So yeah, that's my two cents.

July 22, 2018 11:12 p.m.

6ixer says... #7

So not that net decking is bad but I feel like I'm trying to smash two izzet decks into one ...So if I go the delver route... Snap casters and remands go hand in hand ...How about something janky like the Drake I listed or ... It just seems under powered to rely on delver and or a few tokens from pryo to get it done which is why I asked about reveler in a izzet delver tempo... Any tier 1.5 thoughts lol

July 22, 2018 11:29 p.m.

landofMordor says... #8

Ditto to EmblemMan...except I personally think UR Control with Remand, Snaps, Blood Moon, Roast/Abrade, etc is a viable option (it relies on grinding and removal of permanents more heavily than UWx Control's 'wipes and counterspells). Honestly, though, you probably can't go wrong with the core suite of Pyro/TITI/Snaps/Flooting/Bolt and then jamming your favorite spells for the rest.

July 22, 2018 11:30 p.m.

Hardhitta7 says... #9

That’s what I play, but it’s a Delver/Pyromancer Deck, there are a few of us that play it. It’s pretty tempo based with Remand and Vapor Snag, lots of cantrips and burn spells to trigger Pyro.

I’ve tried Bedlam Reveler but didn’t like it with all the counters, some play it though. I play Enigma Drake occasionally in that spot. Thing in the Ice  Flip can be played too, I have one in the board.

Here’s my deck if you wanna check it out, disregard my budget mana base, it could also use 2x more Snappcasters. Izzmatic.

July 22, 2018 11:30 p.m.

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