i need a second opinion

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Posted on Feb. 18, 2018, 8:38 a.m. by soliced

ive built an infinite combo deck that consistently wins turn 4 but i want to polish it. thanks in advance for any and all help

what i would love help with is better cards to transmute for with Muddle the Mixture

  • 2 mana cost token generator to replace Whirlermaker
  • 2 mana cost destroy target permanent to replace Lux Cannon
  • any better mana rocks that i may have missed (any mana cost)
  • or any way to get a control frame to work with the combo
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    lukas96 says... #2

    Two mana destroy target permanenz is a card that doesnt exist.For three mana tjere would be Anguished Unmaking

    February 18, 2018 8:49 a.m.

    soliced says... #3

    ah i should have probs been a little clearer i need something like Elaborate Firecannon 2 mana to put down and it doesn't matter how much it cost 2 activate. i need to be able to transmute for it usings Muddle the Mixture but to be fair i think your right that there isnt one

    February 18, 2018 8:54 a.m.

    Though only a temporary removal, you could try putting in Cyclonic Rift with Isochron Scepter. For a token generator you could use Bitterblossom. It could also be interesting to see it with Paradox Haze.

    February 18, 2018 9:08 a.m.

    soliced says... #5

    Paradox Haze wow thats pretty dam cool might be able to abuse it so i get a turn 3 win ill test it now and true i could always abuse the Isochron Scepter some more

    February 18, 2018 9:16 a.m.

    nicochulo says... #6

    I mean, unless you consider Cellar Door a good option, there aren't many 2 mana cost token producers. Maybe Genesis Chamber, but is seems risky to me

    February 18, 2018 9:18 a.m.

    soliced says... #7

    Cellar Door pretty sweet i could use it to infinite mill someone or get alot of tokens atm im using Grindclock for that im just worried someone somehow will manages to give them self hexproof so i cant mill or damage for the win

    February 18, 2018 9:30 a.m.

    soliced says... #8

    pretty much i need a card to deal with Leyline of Sanctity atm i transmute for Sunset Pyramid to then draw into Lux Cannon i have infinite mana so no biggy its just a bit clunky

    February 18, 2018 9:33 a.m.

    nicochulo says... #9

    Self hexproof is normally only seen on white decks, and it's normally in the form of Leyline of Sanctity (or at least it was a few months ago, I don't play much Modern atm)

    February 18, 2018 9:36 a.m.

    Cellar Door could be very viable if you use cards like Anticipate or Dimir Charm so you can filter what cards will be at the bottom of your library. And if you want Isochron Scepter to be a key part of your deck, you could activate it every turn.

    February 18, 2018 9:36 a.m.

    Witchbane Orb would be another way of giving yourself hexproof.

    February 18, 2018 9:39 a.m.

    soliced says... #12

    yah Witchbane Orb and Leyline of Sanctity are why i need a way to ever remove them or to go around them with tokens. again thanks everyone your being a great help. i do have Void Snare in my side board maybe if i got a 2 mana version of it i could just search for it and abuse it with Isochron Scepter infinite return to hand

    February 18, 2018 9:43 a.m.

    nicochulo says... #13

    There's Boomerang, I guess

    February 18, 2018 10 a.m.

    It never hurts to have Duress, Inquisition of Kozilek, or Thoughtseize. Also watch out for people who play Pithing Needle. That would pretty much make any combo player want to cry. So for that Smash to Smithereens, and if you go with discard, Surgical Extraction.

    February 18, 2018 10:01 a.m.

    nicochulo says... #15

    And many others, such as Perilous Voyage,Echoing Truth,Compelling Deterrence (if you use Cellar Door) and Winds of Rebuke. Those are the good ones imo

    February 18, 2018 10:05 a.m.

    soliced says... #16

    nice finds Perilous Voyage and Echoing Truth both look the most promising im leaning towards Perilous Voyage because it can help me dig for any card needed to end the game. i was just looking to find any artifact that would bounce cards but sadly no luck for 2 mana so these are probs my best bet

    February 18, 2018 10:14 a.m. Edited.

    Entrei says... #17

    I personally would look for ways to deal with your opponents answers, as virtually every deck in modern has a way to deal with it mainboard, and even more post board. Between Inquisition of Kozilek, Thoughtseize, Abrupt Decay, Ancient Grudge, Stony Silence, Spell Snare, Destructive Revelry,Hurkyl's Recall,Wear,Spell Pierce and Chalice of the Void, there is enough hate that you need answers.

    February 18, 2018 11:19 a.m.

    nicochulo says... #18

    I'm just a "janky strategy" kind of person, but perhaps Turn Aside might be a good answer against most removal. I suggest it because it's a 1 cmc counterspell

    February 18, 2018 1:53 p.m.

    soliced says... #19

    yah there's alot of hate out their for this deck but what this deck has is near 100% consistency I would love counter spells in this deck or some sorta turn skip/ extra turn. what this deck needs i think is a way to remove some of the boarders but keep the consistent combo which would make room for some control

    February 18, 2018 3:24 p.m.

    soliced says... #22

    Mastery of the Unseen is perfect it does what I need at 2 mana once the combo is off I don't need any other cards in my deck so 40+ 2/2 is perfect for a win con. the 1st combo does work but but yah my combo feels abit safer

    February 19, 2018 1:24 p.m.

    soliced says... #23

    Zhur-Taa Druid atm in looking into ways of getting this guy in the deck and if it's actually worth it

    February 19, 2018 1:29 p.m.

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