Help with a Marwyn brew
Modern Deck Help forum
Posted on April 8, 2019, 10:06 a.m. by WhatevWorks
Hey. I made a deck that's trying to use Marwyn, the Nurturer or Viridian Joiner in conjunction with Gift of Growth and similar cards to make ridiculous amounts of mana and a gigantic creature, then win with that. It can pull off early wins (usually turn 3-4 when things go your way), but I'm looking to increase the consistency. Thanks!
Decklist: Santa's Revenge 2: The Return of Marwyn
WhatevWorks says... #3
WizardOfTheNorthernCoast nope, can't say I did. I'll playtest it, but I'm worried those rely too much on you miracling into them. Thanks for the suggestion :)
April 8, 2019 10:18 a.m.
WhatevWorks says... #5
DruneGrey That's a good idea. The fact that it's a counter makes fizzling not as bad, and it only costs 1 to boot. I'll run that, thanks
April 8, 2019 2 p.m.
PlatinumOne says... #6
if you're just trying to mana ramp into big creatures, there are better ways to do it. there are ways you can mana ramp without relying on buffing your creatures first, and creatures you can ramp into that are naturally big on their own.
April 9, 2019 1:10 a.m.
WhatevWorks says... #7
PlatinumOne, the amount of mana generated by targeting Marwyn, the Nurturer or Viridian Joiner with two or three copies of Savage Surge / Aim High / Gift of Growth is more than enough on T3-4 to storm off with a Rishkar's Expertise or some such, then chain untap/buff spells and draw-based-on-power spells until Marwyn swings for lethal and you've got a Whispersilk Cloak in hand with 50 green mana floating. If an Elvish Archdruid list gets lucky, it might be able to land an Eldrazi titan by turn 4.
April 9, 2019 10:32 a.m.
PlatinumOne says... #8
WhatevWorks: not sure what your point is? it doesn't change the facts of what i said. that sort of combo requires that you draw really well (by which i mean "get lucky") and likely leaves you with an empty hand and small boardstate when an opponent just Path to Exile 's your big creature because you didn't draw the one single copy of Whispersilk Cloak in the deck.
your biggest creature in the deck is a 2/1, your power buffs are all instants (meaning temporary), and you have zero sources of trample. trample or other evasion is absolutely mandatory if you're attempting to dump all your resources into one lethal shot. 1 single Whispersilk Cloak won't cut it, and you'll end up getting chump blocked by tokens. the deck folds hard to discard and counterspells.
your deck has no interaction, which means you have to be able to ensure a turn 4 win (at latest), while also contending with opposing interaction. if you don't draw your Marwyn, the Nurturer / Viridian Joiner , or if an opponent casts a turn 1 Thoughtseize and takes one of them, you lose.
April 9, 2019 9:52 p.m.
WhatevWorks says... #9
PlatinumOne, the one copy of Whispersilk Cloak does cut it. Rishkar's Expertise , Soul's Majesty , and Garruk, Primal Hunter draw your deck on a storm turn.
Other than that, everything you said is true. That's why I made this post. I'm looking for cuts to run Savage Summoning and Blossoming Defense ; those seem like good ways to deal with interaction. I might put Lignify in the sideboard, too. Point is, yeah, the deck folds to any sort of control and I'm looking to fix that.
April 10, 2019 9:30 a.m.
blakesmach1 says... #10
What about Emergent Growth ? Many people have brought up the lack of trample ad I’ve used this many times as a way around that build up lethal and then play this on an extra card and unless they counter spell or use removal to take them out of lethal you have your win
April 10, 2019 1:12 p.m.
You could just play a regular elf ball with Heritage Druid and Nettle Sentinel combined with Lead the Stampede / Collected Company / Beck / Call . You build up a ton of power just by playing elves, which draws more elves, and then plays more elves.
Eventually, you have enough of a board state to Craterhoof Behemoth for the win, if you don't just kill them out-right with your army.
WizardOfTheNorthernCoast says... #2
Did you think about including Blessings of Nature or Revenge of the Hunted in there? :)
April 8, 2019 10:13 a.m.