G/w tokens modern
Modern Deck Help forum
Posted on Oct. 7, 2018, 6:40 p.m. by 6ixer
Just saw a few videos of tokens in standard and was like how about modern? Is it do-able with out black, with out hand disruption?
And i wouldn't be going the nissa/Gideon route. Is be doing value cards like spectral, Elspeth midnight haunting. Virus etc... of us junk walkers/tokens better?
DragonKing90 says... #4
elspeth might be too much mana, but gw tokens can be done. theres certainly enough token support in those colors, and ways to go both wide and tall at the same time. personally though i'd at least splash black for Lingering Souls and Bitterblossom, as well as access to Assassin's Trophy.
October 7, 2018 8:46 p.m.
Don't get me wrong I'm not against junk tokens but I don't think it be doing the Gideon Nissa route. If I went junk, Lilly sorin little Elspeth lingering souls virtue ECT ect Nissa is great and all but for 3 mana is personally rather try for 3 white and slam a spectral procession lol. If I went just green white is go super aggressive and at that point I would go Nissa Gideon and 4 drop Elspeth. ECT but what interaction would I have in green white for combo? For as I feel that's the weak spot.
October 8, 2018 3:19 a.m.
Squirrelbacon says... #6
I really do think that History of Benalia should see modern play. That card is quite silly and in theory I could see it replacing (or at least being split with) Bitterblossom.
Monastery Mentor is also one of my favorite cards ever, so of course I'll recommend my guy. The problem with both is those are that they are 3-drops. Playing 3 of each plus 3-4 Spectral Procession is a super dense 3 spot.
A lot of the other white token cards just aren't very good... Raise the Alarm feels terribad most of the time. Gather the Townsfolk is just a worse RtA. If in tokens you get full value off of Timely Reinforcements you're doing it wrong.
Lingering Souls really makes the entire token archetype. Without Lingering Souls, you lack on the value aspect and then the next best path to go is Young Pyromancer. I think it's doable to do , but splashing is I think necessary. Even if it's just for Lingering Souls.
October 8, 2018 10:57 a.m.
See my problem is I feel I could give green white a great shot but it's lack of interaction
October 8, 2018 1:47 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #8
I threw this together when spoilers were still coming out so it doesn't have every thing up to date but...
Selesnya Token Deck W/Black
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Venerated Loxodon is beyond awesome. My pick for a card that should find it's way into modern.
October 8, 2018 11:50 p.m.
DragonKing90 says... #9
APPLE01DOJ: Venerated Loxodon won't see play in modern. cards that cost 5 or more need to be able to make an immediate impact.
October 9, 2018 10:04 a.m.
DragonKing90 says... #10
just because you splash black for interaction/removal doesn't mean you're required to use gideons or nissa's.
October 9, 2018 10:08 a.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #11
I think you're missing the value behind it.
It's a Potentially free 4/4 body that pumps your team.
EOT T2, Raise the Alarm. T3, Untap play Spectral Procession, then convoke Venerated Loxodon. That's 14 power on board and 6 bodies for 5 mana broken up.
October 9, 2018 10:13 a.m.
DragonKing90 says... #12
APPLE01DOJ: yes i know what the card does, but i also know what modern is like. the line of play you suggest leaves 0 room for any interaction against the opponent, deals 0 damage turn 2 or 3, leaves no blockers turn 2, and only a single blocker turn 3.
October 9, 2018 10:50 a.m.
Dragonking90, I only made that remark because when Nissa and Gideon both came out in standard I remember a list or two of people trying them together in modern.
October 9, 2018 12:47 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #14
Yea it isn't 100% going to happen. All the time but still a realistic line of play. I've made very similar lines of play in actual games. Besides so much of modern right now is unfair decks & control. There is Deaths Shadow, Elves, Hollow One, & Tron everything else is gimmicky decks like Storm right now. You can get away with plays like that because your opponents are setting up.
October 9, 2018 1:38 p.m.
I mean if we're going gimmick lol I could just make my own of titan breach with out vakakut because it slows it down slightly but that being said has the meta changed that much lol last time I played it dominated but mid range or some kind of control with small amounts of combo decks floating around.
October 9, 2018 5:36 p.m.
DragonKing90 says... #16
APPLE01DOJ: if you're using "gimmicky" to describe Storm, then I don't think you know what the word means. btw i never commented on how often your suggested line of play could occur, but rather on the drawbacks of it.
October 9, 2018 7:32 p.m.
Well the tokens deck seems pretty straight forward it's just a matter of what's in and what's out ECT ECT, make no mistake last time I played tokens was well over two years ago and it was cards like lingering souls, spectral procession, virtue, original 4 drop sorin, knight errant and lilly. With your obvious thoughseize/inquisition, and paths.
October 9, 2018 8:04 p.m.
Now that I said that I just asked my self why junk then? Well again in my mind Nissa doesn't seem bad because it lays down a protector for it self it acts as a gavony township, that's all of use her for. And well there's always abrupt decay. Now is Lilly needed in the deck now a days?? I know she's always done good with a deck playing lingering souls for it's discard value, but is she absolutely needed? .... thoughts??
October 9, 2018 8:09 p.m.
DragonKing90 says... #19
if you decide to add black, it should be for Lingering Souls, Bitterblossom, Assassin's Trophy, and Abrupt Decay. there arent any black planeswalkers that i myself would add. in fact the only planeswalker i'd use at all is Huatli, Radiant Champion.
October 9, 2018 8:55 p.m.
Both 4 drop sorin s i can think are black walkers that are good
October 9, 2018 8:59 p.m.
DragonKing90 says... #21
sorin's aren't "bad", they're just not what i would use. cmc 4 would be the top of my curve for a token deck, and Huatli takes the cmc 4 slot in a GWx deck.
October 9, 2018 9:05 p.m.
I just like the second 4 drop sorin because the until next turn buff he provides with his plus 1
October 9, 2018 10:45 p.m.
DragonKing90 says... #23
Huatli can potentially use her ultimate the turn after you play her.
October 9, 2018 10:52 p.m.
The dragon planes walker, sorry can't remember that name
October 9, 2018 11:03 p.m.
DragonKing90 says... #25
October 9, 2018 11:07 p.m.
You try getting to 7 or 8 mana in modern lol, not saying they're not good in their own realm but in this deck, no
October 10, 2018 3:31 p.m.
DragonKing90 says... #27
i wasn't suggesting them, i was trying to figure out which "dragon planeswalker" you meant. btw, tron decks cast Ugin, the Spirit Dragon on turn 4.
October 10, 2018 6:40 p.m.
Oh haha I miss typed I meant to quote your name in the reply and my phone auto corrected it which is why is came out that way, .... my bad
October 10, 2018 6:53 p.m.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1392850#paper
This is my gw tokens deck it's pretty competitive I have a very strong local meta which plays nearly all the up to date teir 1 decks and this deck is a very strong competitor
I disagree with not taking the gideon and nissa path Nissa provides a turn 3 or sometimes 2 constant token engine that can buff up all your creatures or even draw you cards and gideon is also a constant token engine plus a peranant buff
I've used huatli radiant champion which may seem strange but is probably the best reason to play this deck as if you can get the emblam online ( which if the deck is played properly isn't hard ) will give you a constant draw engine which is extremely hard for a opponent to match
This deck is mainly cretures that synergize with each other and produce tokens
The deck will fall on its face with no draw mechanism which huatli is for and mentor of the meek in case you can't get huatli
The deck suffers from hand disruption I'm still working on it I also believe more board wipes for humans and coco may help and field of ruin for tron and other land based decks but these are just cards I own
Elspeth would be good but I dont own any so if you do it would be fun to see what it's like
Overall the deck is consistent and a blast to play hope this has helped
DragonKing90 says... #2
what is your last sentence asking? what do you mean by "virus etc...of us junk walkers/tokens better?"
October 7, 2018 7:54 p.m.