GRIXIS CONTROL (TWIN). how to i beat that?

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Posted on July 30, 2015, 2:34 a.m. by Ra1nStorm

Actually though.. how do i beat it using abzan coco.. i need some help for sideboard tech that can help me with this.. it's literally the only match up i struggle against.. twin just wrecks me and it sucks..

GoofyFoot says... #2

graveyard hate? I personally run 3 Leyline of the Void and they hate me. It makes Thought Scour completely useless and most of the cards in the deck strictly worse. you could also run Rest in Peace instead if you aren't worried about your own grave.

July 30, 2015 2:40 a.m.

Ra1nStorm says... #3

anything else? it feels like control is tough for me but grixis twin is just destroying me everytime.. i try to effect the graveyard as much as possible using Wheel of Sun and Moon but totally realized after that it kind of helps them anyway.. leyline is definitely better

July 30, 2015 2:51 a.m.

-Fulcrum says... #4

You're playing Abzan? You are literally Twin's worst matchup. Your creatures are bigger than theirs, your lifegain is stronger than their burn/aggro, and your Abrupt Decays make them flip the table.

TS/Inquisition do some work, but you gotta watch out for Snapcaster. Liliana of the Veil actually just ends the game.

July 30, 2015 2:58 a.m. Edited.

KillDatBUG says... #5

Yeah, I don't understand how this is even an unfavorable matchup, let alone a terrible one. Do you just not know how to play against Twin?

July 30, 2015 3 a.m.

Ra1nStorm says... #6

I'm playing infinite persist melira combo.. twin has an answer and i think i fixed the problem with voice, grand abolisher, and leyline

July 30, 2015 3:18 a.m.

Putrefy says... #7

Well then you should say you play Abzan CoCo and not Abzan. Two completely different decks.

Grixis Twin is probably CoCos worst match-up after Tron. Not much you can do other than play Spellskite which you can chord for in response to the twin. Also some players utilize Blind Obedience, it stops the combo completely and Grixis has a very tough time dealing with enchantments.

July 30, 2015 3:22 a.m. Edited.

Ra1nStorm says... #8

sorry, my mistake.. i fixed the original post. and Blind obedience could work very well

July 30, 2015 3:24 a.m.

GoofyFoot says... #9

Illness in the Ranks solves all your twin problems.

July 30, 2015 4:40 a.m.

JexInfinite says... #10

GoofyFoot Not against Grixis Twin at all. It only stops the infinite combo, not the midrange game.

July 30, 2015 5:39 a.m.

-Fulcrum says... #11

Even against Grixis, Abrupt Decay, Thoughtseize, and Dismember still do a lot of work.

July 30, 2015 5:45 a.m.

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