Will Nissa and Nahiri Ever Meet?

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Posted on Feb. 10, 2020, 10:46 p.m. by DemonDragonJ

I still am very disappointed that Gideon and Elspeth never met, since I believe that they would have made a great couple.

Therefore, there are two other characters whom I would like to see meet: Nissa and Nahiri. They are both from Zendikar, they both have a connection with land, and Nissa would be able to show Nahiri that Zendikar has survived, and hopefully convince Nahiri to abandon her hatred toward Sorin.

What does everyone else say about this? Will Nissa and Nahiri ever meet?

DemonDragonJ says... #2

TypicalTimmy, yes, perhaps they shall meet in the upcoming Zendikar Rising, as that would be the most dramatically appropriate set in which it could occur.

February 10, 2020 11:01 p.m.

Idoneity says... #3

Okay. So, it is incredibly difficult to tell if any two characters will ever meet each, so I have nothing to offer there. However, I would like to make an argument. If Nissa and Nahiri were to meet, I don't believe that Nahiri would ever lose her enmity of Sorin. Their antipathic relationship runs far deeper than a world dying.

When the eldrazi encroached unto Zendikar thousands of years prior, Ugin, Nahiri, and Sorin toiled to contain them. I'm not too familiar with this part of the lore, but Ugin mentally schemed the hedrons and Nahiri sculpted them. I don't quite know what Sorin did but he was there and witnessed Nahiri's ascendency as a Planeswalker. He enlightened her as to the nature of Planeswalkers and she forged a connection with him. (get it? :D)

Afore they all parted ways, they vowed that if any trouble arises with the eldrazi, they would return to solve the issue. As such, Nahiri attempted to contact them for this very issue, neither of them came. So, she encased herself in stone for one thousand years for the sake of binding the eldrazi and succeeded. All alone for that long, she believed Sorin to be dead.

After her rocky incarceration, she visited Innistrad to see if Sorin was salubrious. They conversed, Nahiri told him of the issue, Sorin showed absolutely no signs of remorse, and they ended up in a brawl. During their fight, Sorin beckoned Avacyn for aid, resulting in Nahiri being girded by the Helvault. She resided in desolate oblivion, sempiternally falling, in the presence of demons and other horrors as Sorin locked them in there. This tenebrous fate went on for some hundreds of years. Eventually, Liliana destroyed the Helvault to snuff out Griselbrand and Nahiri was able to escape.

She brought Emrakul to Innistrad, murdered the Markov Manor, and trapped Sorin in the wall, believing him fey.

Now, he's alive and they still want to kill each other.

My point is that their hatred goes deeper than Zendikar's weal. It's personal and morbidly so.

Sorry for rambling on, but I hope this offered at least something, even if it was off-topic.

February 10, 2020 11:02 p.m.

RicketyEng says... #4

Azeworai, your synopsis of Sorin and Nahiri's friendship/enmity does a good job of showing why Nahiri might not make up with Sorin any time soon. However, it did have a few details slightly misplaced. For anyone who wants the full version of Sorin and Nahiri's relationship: The Lithomancer, Stirring From Slumber, Promises Old and New, Stone and Blood, Campaign of Vengeance.

I actually got thinking about Nahiri and Nissa the other day. A while ago my initial thoughts were that they might get along as they both have the well being of their home plane in mind. However, I think Nissa would try to advocate for the destruction of the hedrons because they are warping the leylines of Zendikar. I'm not sure how Nahiri would actually take this. She might agree to help since I don't think she has any real sentimental attachment to the hedrons, but I could be wrong on that. If they did come to disagreement I'm not convinced it would evolve into war. Nahiri and the Gatewatch never actually met on Innistrad so I don't believe Nissa would know that Nahiri made the hedrons.

If Nissa and Nahiri ever did meet and got talking I wonder if they would discuss Sorin (at the risk of failing the Bechdel Test I suppose). However, Nissa's aversion to talking to people might make this whole line of thought moot.

Also, Zendikar Rising is meant to be a corrected return to Zendikar as an adventure world and not a world being destroyed by war. So Zendikar has some plot armour against a war developing between Nissa and Nahiri.

February 11, 2020 9:11 a.m.

Nemesis says... #5

@Azeworai: Salubrious - good word. That is all I came to say.

February 11, 2020 9:51 a.m.

Idoneity says... #6

RicketyEng - Ah, yes, I am not too familiar with all of the older tale's specifics, so my apologies.

Nemesis - :)

As for Zendikar Rising, I cannot wait for Planeswalkers' gests to be set aside in the wake of adventure!

For the topic, I am curious, has Nissa shown any dislike of the hedrons in the past?

February 11, 2020 10:14 a.m. Edited.

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