Possible spoilers for what happens in Oath of the Gatewatch
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Posted on Jan. 5, 2016, 8:06 p.m. by LiveForChaos
Coinman1863 says... #2
Ah at least going back to Innistrad makes some sense now.
January 5, 2016 8:10 p.m.
GET HYPED!!!!!!!!
Jace and Sorin and Nahiri vs. Emrakul in Shadows over Innistrad!
January 5, 2016 8:11 p.m.
YouGotFranked says... #4
Plot twist: Nahiri reform the Helvault and they trap Emrakul in it.
January 5, 2016 8:17 p.m.
LiveForChaos says... #5
YouGotFranked Plot twist: the Helvault was a shard of Innistrad's moon.
January 5, 2016 8:20 p.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #7
Didn't Ugin say that destroying the titans wasn't going to work because it would just release them from Zendikar?
January 5, 2016 9:25 p.m.
LiveForChaos says... #9
CanadianShinobi Yes, but Jace was quoted to saying this ~
"If the hedrons could pull, then couldn't they pull harder? With enough power, couldn't they be used to draw the Eldrazi fully into the physical realm? If you had a spike through a man's hand, you could do a lot more than hold him there. You could pull him into the pond. And then . . ."
My guess is that the "Gatewatch" was left no other alternative than to try pulling them into a physical state of being and dispatching them...
January 5, 2016 9:47 p.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #10
That or this is a defeat disguised as a victory. Zendkiar is saved but the multiverse is at risk.
January 5, 2016 10:05 p.m.
first thought when i saw the idea of trapping emrakul in helvault: "wow! thats like trapping tentails in the moon!"
January 5, 2016 10:23 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #12
Personally I hope this turns out to be a hollow victory for the Gatewatch. I don't like how 4 Neowalkers are able to destroy 2 titans when 3 old, godlike planeswalkers couldn't even kill one.
I would be perfectly okay if the Gatewatch destroyed only the physical manifestations of Ulamog and Kozilek. But I'll have a hard time swallowing the idea that they could destroy two-thirds of the entire Eldrazi entity.
January 5, 2016 11:10 p.m.
beakedbard says... #14
So wait they are destroyed for real? Not wandering off in the blind eternities again? As in their forms that would be in the blind eternities got destroyed as well or did they just destroy their forms on zendikar? I'm hoping the latter because as has already been said 4 neo walkers shouldn't be able to do what 3 pre mending walkers couldn't I mean they were godlike then any one of them would of been able to beat all 4 of the neo walkers single handedly Ugin probably still could. If they are destroyed I hope Emrakul isn't as much of a let down.
January 6, 2016 4:56 a.m.
GoldGhost012 Ugin, Sorin and Nahiri could of destroyed them but Ugin didn't want them destroyed. He wanted them trapped.
January 6, 2016 5:13 a.m.
beakedbard says... #16
That was mainly because they could only destroy the bodys and not the actual real Eldrazi if i remember correctly this is the issue we don't know yet if they've actually destroyed Ulamog and Kozilek or just their bodies.
January 6, 2016 5:39 a.m.
beakedbard says... #17
It just seems a little too easy that Jace could draw them into their physical bodies by boosting the hedrons something Nahiri was far far more familiar with and if Jace thought of that why didn't she?
January 6, 2016 5:42 a.m.
So in the other thread I started, from the card Bonds of Mortality in Oath - Jace discovered the leyline pattern needed to anchor Ulamog and Kozilek to reality, but it was Nissa who could trace it on her world.
They are able to destroy them fully because they are anchored to the world, and not projecting themselves from the Blind Eternities. Ugin made the whole "hand in a fish pond" comparison when discussing the Eldrazi and why not to kill them. Jace figures out a new way of doing things, he is using Ugins work and going from there, so it's not 100% Jace who figured it out. Without Ugin's original work and the remaining Hedrson he never would have made the progress and been able to figure out they could be bound, something Ugin never figured out himself.
I'm sad the Titans are just going to get killed off immediatly, but it does leave interesting speculation as to where and when Emrakul will turn up now.
January 6, 2016 6:49 a.m.
Yeah kind of a simple ending to two of the scariest creatures to ever exist in the multiverse
January 6, 2016 9:32 a.m.
JakeHarlow says... #20
I don't know. It seems all right to me. I'm sort of tired of the Eldrazi as villains, and besides, the greatest Titan is still at large. I would like to go back to slightly more comprehensible foes, like Bolas or Phyrexians. The Eldrazi have kind of been at the forefront of the overall story for quite some time now.
January 6, 2016 11:55 a.m.
shinobigarth says... #22
I'm also getting tired of the eldrazi and don't really care because Emmy's still who knows where which means we still have at least another eldrazi focused block later.
January 6, 2016 6:28 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #25
PLOT TWIST!
Emrakul has warped Nahiri beyond recognition!
January 7, 2016 11 p.m.
readerrw07 says... #26
As long as they can finish up the Eldrazi soon and move to a new villan, I dont mind them getting killed off easily
LiveForChaos says... #1
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January 5, 2016 8:07 p.m.