Would I ever?
Posted on Dec. 5, 2018, 10:14 p.m. by rache
Getting into legacy and plan on running reanimator. My creature selection is pretty standard running 4 Griselbrand 4 Chancellor of the Annex 1 Iona, Shield of Emeria 1 Sire Of Insanity and 1 Tidespout Tyrant. My question, is there ever a scenario where I'm on the play and would be better off reanimating Griselbrand rather than Iona or Sire?
In a situation where you are running against a deck that can empty it's hand, or has a field and you want lifelink. Against artifact/colorless lists Iona sucks, and also against 3+ color decks it isn't great, but if they are also too aggro and fast at emptying the hand (mirror perhaps) for Sire to do a lot, Grisel is the goto.
Chancellor can also work if you are going up against that Could empty its hand fast, but I like Grisel more.
December 6, 2018 8:37 a.m.
Yes, I would say that Griselbrand is the correct choice in 80% of situations. Unless iona is outright winning the game for you (say, you are playing versus death and taxes), it is not a correct choice. Sire makes 0 impact on the board versus most decks (6/4 are just poor stats) and tidesprout tyrant is slow af.
Griseslbrand can draw you 7-14 new cards prior to kicking the bucket, which really keeps you in the game if the turn 1 play does not pan out.
Consider Empyrial Archangel as a cool reanimation target that deals with a lot of annoying situations and is much better than Tyrant at sealing the game.
December 6, 2018 8:57 a.m.
SynergyBuild What deck would already have a field before it's even had a turn? And what does it matter if their deck can empty it's hand quickly if I'm forcing them to discard their hand before they even get a turn?
Boza how is forcing my opponent into top decking before they even get a turn zero impact? Doesn't that pretty much win against most decks?
December 6, 2018 12:10 p.m.
I assumed that you weren't always going to reanimate turn one, having some turn two or even the occasional turn 3 reanimate.
You are right, Sire is pretty great.
December 6, 2018 1:15 p.m.
SynergyBuild i should have specified turn one when i said on the play, sorry about that
December 6, 2018 1:53 p.m.
I assume that you are running BR reanimator? Because my preferred reanimator (UB) Griselbrand is the first reanimation target 95%+ of the time. It doesn't run Sire at all and Iona is only the correct play against mono-colored decks.
December 6, 2018 3:55 p.m.
Gidgetimer Your assumption is correct, I chose B/R over the traditional U/B for it's slightly faster clock and explosive turn one plays. I'd argue agaisnt your last point, Iona can shut out multi-colored decks as well by targeting its primary removal color (ie white to shut dowm Swords to Plowshares)
December 6, 2018 11:44 p.m.
Well, even you leave them empty handed, sire takes five turns to win, which is a lot. On turn 1, yes it is a decent play, but not necessarily game winning.
Griselbrand is a much scarier turn 1 play. It allows you draw into more gas and actually have a decent turn 2, which none of the other options guarantee.
December 7, 2018 3:08 a.m.
In UB you are running 8 counterspells. Having 14+ extra cards is just as safe and much more flexible than Iona against multicolor decks.