why i like legacy!

Legacy forum

Posted on Oct. 16, 2014, 1:56 p.m. by tyforthevenom

because it's the only format where i can lose and not realise how i lost for 2 weeks afterwords

Cobthecobbler says... #2

okay

October 16, 2014 2:11 p.m.

TurboFagoot says... #3

If you can't identify how you lost in a game of Legacy you're probably not very good.

October 16, 2014 2:21 p.m.

tyforthevenom says... #4

If i lost in legacy then i kept a bad hand or they made me play first, and considering i don't run lands in my legacy deck a bad hand is not common

October 16, 2014 2:28 p.m.

smash10101 says... #5

manaless dredge? There is a reason I don't like that deck.

October 16, 2014 3:03 p.m.

xlaleclx says... #6

"If i lost in legacy then i kept a bad hand or they made me play first" "i can lose and not realise how i lost"
Huh...

October 16, 2014 3:06 p.m.

julianjmoss says... #7

then you clearly have no understanding of how complex the format is.

October 16, 2014 3:25 p.m.

tyforthevenom says... #8

xlaleclx you can't afford to mulligan my deck so your 7 card hand is the best you'll ever have but still it's possible to win with that hand but not always

October 16, 2014 3:33 p.m.

JRaynor says... #9

Is this an inside joke? sarcasm? Because I just don't get it. Maybe because I'm a fairly new player and haven't tried legacy.

October 16, 2014 4:26 p.m.

tyforthevenom says... #10

jraynor legacy has so many different mechanics available to it that you'd need a super computer hardwired to your brain to keep track of them all at the same time... 21 years worth of cards in a single game

October 16, 2014 4:35 p.m.

julianjmoss says... #11

jraynor Its an incredibly intricate and requires less luck than standard and more skill as every play matters. Usually you can understand why you lost though, tyforthevenom doesnt seem to have a grasp on the format so much.

"If i lost in legacy then i kept a bad hand or they made me play first, and considering i don't run lands in my legacy deck a bad hand is not common"

This makes it look like he plays manaless dredge which is actually a pretty consistent deck although it auto loses game 2 and 3 if an opponent sides in a plethora of cards, not to mention it has no interaction against combo decks.

tl:dr legacy rewards skill

October 16, 2014 5:02 p.m.

Dude, you start so many threads and there all either stupid or nobody knows what your trying to say.

October 16, 2014 5:12 p.m.

SkyRaider42 says... #13

I think op means that the combos are so crazy in legacy, you can walk away thinking: "WTF did I play against?"

October 17, 2014 6:19 p.m.

tyforthevenom says... #14

SkyRaider42 what they said

October 17, 2014 7:39 p.m.

So it's an issue with a lack familiarity to the format?

October 17, 2014 8:43 p.m.

tyforthevenom says... #16

More a "every possible combo is potentially possible" so something new coming up is not unusual

October 17, 2014 8:58 p.m.

xlaleclx says... #17

It IS pretty unusual that a good new combo comes up in legacy. There aren't that many combo decks in legacy right now.

October 17, 2014 8:59 p.m.

You haven't lived until you've played against Mono White Stax and Ral Stasis back to back (it was the dullest two hours of my life).

October 17, 2014 9:06 p.m.

tyforthevenom says... #19

from my experience.... legacy literally survives on pure jank

October 18, 2014 5:14 p.m.

Nah, one generally knows what one lost to if one is at all competent.

Most people play more skill-intensive decks, and there is a hell of a lot more intricacy to the format than you think there is. I'm not an avid player of the format, but I watch and play enough to know how much I don't know.

I don't think the same is true of you. In order to get better, you need to know what mistakes you made that lost you certain games.

Legacy doesn't survive on pure jank. It survives on certain principles that make decks very, very powerful and consistent.

October 18, 2014 7:05 p.m.

TurboFagoot says... #21

"Legacy survives on pure jank"

What does that even mean? I feel like you have no idea on how to play Legacy.

October 18, 2014 7:16 p.m.

tyforthevenom says... #22

You misunderstand GlistenerAgent i mean things that in modern and standard would be thought of janky cards

October 18, 2014 7:16 p.m.

Like what? Every card people play is either a very powerful card in itself or an answer to a specific problem that arises only in Legacy.

October 18, 2014 7:18 p.m.

tyforthevenom says... #24

October 18, 2014 7:24 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #25

The only card I can name off the top of my head that is both modern and legacy playable that is considered semi bad in modern but much better in legacy is Delver of Secrets  Flip and even then, it's still pretty decent in both formats. The only combo's that should really be surprising are strange homebrews

October 18, 2014 7:25 p.m.

tyforthevenom says... #26

VampireArmy i meant cards that are completely unplayable in their standard and in modern

October 18, 2014 7:36 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #27

What cards would that be?

October 18, 2014 7:39 p.m.

@tyforthevenom That's just one card, and it's in a deck that needs its cards to do very specific things. Legacy is run by cards that are either very powerful on their own or cards that do specific things, like Balustrade Spy . I'm not sure you understand what actual jank is. The card is only bad in other formats because we don't have access to the cards that would make it better.

Learn what you're talking about.

October 18, 2014 7:42 p.m.

julianjmoss says... #29

Balustrade spy is a niche card that helps a fringe deck be good but it isn't overpowered and can be easily hosed

October 18, 2014 10:35 p.m.

smash10101 says... #30

I don't know. I think Nic Fit decks are usually pure jank, but it's nic fit, so it still works. The fact that you could be playing so many different cards is part of what makes the deck good. Respond to my Academy Rector dying to Cabal Therapy by wishing for Humility ? I have seen that happen before. I've also played against a janky monowhite Helm of Obedience deck with Rest in Peace and playing Land Tax and Scroll Rack for card advantage. If that's not jank, then what is?

October 18, 2014 11:12 p.m.

julianjmoss says... #31

That's not jank its synergy and thoughtfulness

October 18, 2014 11:54 p.m.

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