How does Sneak and Show beat Karakas?
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Posted on Sept. 24, 2015, 11:17 a.m. by ThisIsBullshit
I was playtesting my Sneak and Show deck, and of course I ran into Death and Taxes. So I learned the hard way that I can't beat turn one Karakas.
Wat do?
Can I get away with running Wastelands? I heard somewhere that it's hard for the SnS shell to support wastes but maybe whoever that was was wrong.
reverendvile777 says... #4
Blood Moon is the obvious card of choice. Also, if you can Emrakul, the Aeons Torn most of their board away, EoT Wipe Away can clear the path for him.
September 24, 2015 11:30 a.m.
reverendvile777 says... #5
Sneak Show already plays 4-6 Colorless lands, Wasteland is just not supportable.
September 24, 2015 11:31 a.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #6
I took a quick research trip around the internet, and from what I've found, no, SnS doesn't really have the mana base to support Wasteland.
But I also did find Stifle, Not of This World, and Blood Moon as possible tech against it. Blood Moon might be good against D&T anyway, since it shuts off a lot of their lands and can be Show and Tell'd.
September 24, 2015 11:33 a.m.
Servo_Token says... #8
Isnt that why most people play omni tell now? the presence of karakas?
September 24, 2015 11:41 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #9
Yeah, Sneak and Show just has bad game against D&T. OmniTell has a better game, but I reckon it's incredibly pilot dependent.
September 24, 2015 11:47 a.m.
Coinman1863 says... #10
What about janky stuff like Avalanche Riders to Sneak in?
September 24, 2015 12:11 p.m.
aeonstoremyliver says... #11
Pithing Needle works too. Karakas can still be tapped for 
, but can't send Legends to yer hand.
September 24, 2015 12:39 p.m.
GeminiSpartanX says... #12
I play Sneak and Show as well, and there are a few ways to get around it. If they aren't pressuring you too much, go for a Sneak Attack and make sure to have 2 red sources available. They can bounce it before you attack but then you can Sneak it out again, or you get to attack and get your annihilate trigger and they prevent damage for a turn leaving nothing left on their side of the board, including their Karakas.
I run a Pithing Needle and 3 Blood Moons in my SB, but I normally don't bother bringing in Blood Moons against a mono-white deck like D&T. I also run a singleton Omniscience in my 75 to have an out to a Containment Priest and to get the extra turn on Emrakul (which also beats Karakas). Hope some of that helps!
September 24, 2015 12:50 p.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #13
Blood Moon is good in SnS? I've only got one Island mainboard
September 24, 2015 12:53 p.m.
GeminiSpartanX says... #14
Blood Moon is awesome in SnS. I run more basic lands b/c I hate Wasteland- I do 3/1 split of basic Islands and a single basic Mountain. Here's my list for reference- Plain ole Sneak and Show
September 24, 2015 12:57 p.m.
reverendvile777 says... #15
Stifle is a good card but not an optimal choice here. The tempo advantage of blowing up fetchlands doesn't offer much here, and most lists already carry a Flusterstorm package as an out to Storm.Blood Moon on the other hand is just a t1 scoop against a lot of decks, and Wipe Away can deal with literally any troublesome permanent and can't be countered except with a blind Counterbalance reveal.
naynay666 says... #2
Blood Moon
September 24, 2015 11:27 a.m.