Competitive Tour for the Creative

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Posted on March 29, 2017, 4:06 p.m. by NORTHOG

If this sounds like you? You have too many decks together to count. You are currently tweaking or building a few more. You've been playing for long enough that it's a small claim to fame. You occasionally call Standard Type 2 every now and then. You enjoy building decks almost as much as playing them. I answered yes to every one of those. If you did as well then you undoubtedly remember a time when Deck design was considered an art. The variance of decks you would play against each week was amazing. What if a tournament system could recreate that? That was my dream, which became a challenge, and is now in development. The problem I've faced is letting the right people know. Well hopefully that's about to change. All I ask is that you take a moment to look it over, and give me your feedback. Formats are being tested as we speak, and the website is already under development. All that is required is the community to get it rolling.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2071600413/deck-designers-duel

NORTHOG says... #2

Just look up Deck Designers Duel on Kickstarter for the full explanation.

March 29, 2017 4:07 p.m.

Recover819 says... #3

Don't have money. I can share it though. :)

Good luck.

March 29, 2017 4:57 p.m.

I like it...but how will prices compare to magic especially if the format changes each month?

March 29, 2017 5:25 p.m.

NORTHOG says... #5

So the idea is to maximize what players currently have. As an example, one of the Formats that has already been accepted is based around tribal builds. Deck construction requires at least 20 cards that share a creature type. Cards printed from Ice Age on are allowed, so there is a wide selection of possibilities. Players shouldn't have a problem creating something no matter when they began playing.

There will also be variants based around formats that are similar to pauper in order to keep costs of deck construction down.

An idea that's being floated right now is to make every other month a Multiplayer version of the month previous which I think could work best.

March 30, 2017 6:54 a.m.

NORTHOG says... #6

Unlike the Pro Tour, there is no need to qualify. Once you've signed up you are in. Now that could potentially change in the future, but not for a few seasons at least. As long as your local store has at least 8 registered players then the store can hold tournaments. That way acquiring duelist points, and increasing your ranking shouldn't be too costly.

March 30, 2017 6:59 a.m.

shadow63 says... #7

I don't think wotc would be cool with this. And it seems like he's taking your money so he can come up with different formats which is something mtg players do on their own all the time

March 30, 2017 10:52 a.m.

Boza says... #8

I have to disagree with OP. Times are different now and we cannot go back to those days where Deckbuilding was an art. The collective knowledge of players is much higher than it once was, cards are much more streamlined in what they can do and the game as a whole is a lot more different than it once was.

Additionally, I do not get it all - provide funding for a tournament scheme that focuses on deckbuilding? And every month it is a different format?

That sounds like a bad idea - you start off with a new format, having no idea what will be good. By the time you have an idea of what the meta is, there is a new format. Additionally, "A time when Magic was good" is different for everybody and I do not think the "way the game was intended" is correct either - no formats, no limits on the number of copies of cards, ante...

I am not excited by this idea and do not see its merits at all.

March 30, 2017 11:14 a.m.

NORTHOG says... #9

The Metagame exists because of the lengths of time before sets cycle out. With a significantly shortened cycle. Designing a deck that can compete becomes a test of your ability to create something that is strong overall, or can surprise your opponent. Even the very first pro tour event was a modified version of type 2 in order to facilitate deck construction creativity. That's what we are hoping for.

March 30, 2017 3:35 p.m.

NORTHOG says... #10

Also this tournament isn't for everyone. If you are happy playing what's already proven, or spend most of your time looking to play something that breaks the current meta. Then designing totally new decks that can only be judged by how well you play them won't appeal to you.

March 30, 2017 3:38 p.m.

NORTHOG says... #11

The registration fee that is collected through the website goes to further development. Future plans include a mobile application, Proxy player system, and player guilds. A $50 sign up is less than the cost of attending two PTQs. In comparison the cost to be a part of this tour is minimal.

I appreciate all the feedback. While visiting stores, player feedback has been integral with our design. Of course money is a motivator for a lot of players. Quite a few cited notoriety as well which was always a consideration of mine. The website will include Player Profiles, interviews, and full game videos showcasing the most creative, and talented Competitors.

March 30, 2017 3:47 p.m.

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