A Request From a Friend

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Posted on Sept. 27, 2018, 1:34 p.m. by ZendikariWol

So on request from a friend, I have brewed a budget Honden deck (JUNDens), and would like to see if anyone has other ideas or inputs. Basically I wanted to see if anyone proposed other sweet Honden decks, or can think of a strategy that would be fun.

My friend gave me 3 specifications: it has to be pretty heckin cheap, it has to be casual, and it has to be non-abusive, at least mostly. (Note that the deck I made does NOT count as budget, but replace the shock lands w/... probably just taplands and it's basically in the clear.)

I think the Hondens are actually really cool and fun and my friend's older brother is CONVINCED this will not work, so for all those reasons I really want to make this awesome.

shadow63 says... #2

I dont think itll work with the budget restrictions as you almost need Mirror Gallery and stuff to tutor them up like Enlightened Tutor and Three Dreams

September 27, 2018 5:27 p.m.

ZendikariWol says... #3

Actually I got a really good suggestion on that. It'll force me to scramble some color combos and Joseph may not be the happiest with it, but Paradox Haze is more or less just as good as Mirror Gallery here, and I'm using Kruphix's Insight rather than a stupidly expensive tutor.

September 28, 2018 9:37 a.m.

shadow63 says... #4

Ok you could try Forbidden Alchemy

September 28, 2018 10:11 a.m.

Kogarashi says... #5

I know my husband has plans to eventually build a 5-color Honden deck utilizing effects like Paradox Haze, Sterling Grove, and possibly a Mirror Gallery, though I think he wants to try to keep it purely enchantments, with possible consideration for Theros's enchantment creatures. The deckbuild hasn't really gotten beyond vague ideas yet, though.

September 28, 2018 10:42 a.m.

ZendikariWol says... #6

Arright guys, I'm almost there, but here's where it gets tricky. Budgets do not support a 5-color mana base. So which honden, in your opinions, is the weakest?

September 28, 2018 12:49 p.m.

shadow63 says... #7

White one maybe try Vivid Grove and the like for the mana base

September 28, 2018 1:35 p.m.

Funkydiscogod says... #8

Honden of Seeing Winds can be incredibly dangerous when you have more than 1-2 other shrines.

Imagine you have all 5 shrines in play, Honden of Infinite Rage will kill an opponent from 20 in 4 turns. During that time, you'd draw 23 cards.

Under most circumstances, this is fine, but if the opponent ever has more life than cards in your library, or creates planeswalkers that you need to spend an upkeep to burn, then you might run into problems.

Also, Conflux and All Suns' Dawn are good for 5-color Shrines.

October 13, 2018 9:35 p.m.

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