worst People to Play Against
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Posted on Dec. 15, 2014, 9:03 a.m. by capriom85
Let's share our stories about the most awful people to play MtG with. Whether your issue is they take it to seriously, are just rude, or Are A Plain Cheater Let's discuss.
My story is a kid at my LGS either doesn't understand how to play and won't accept help or is cheating through "pretending to act ignorant". He makes outrageous claims like "prowess stacks" like first spell gives +1/+1, then second spell gives +2/+2 for a total of +3/+3 out of 2 spells. Then he tantrums when you explain what "stacks" means.
Another thing is he confuses he proof with protection from. Claims Narset, Enlightened Master cannot be dealt damage By Any sources. So when you Anger of the Gods he rage quits over it. Strange kid
MoosemastheDestroyer says... #3
Oh man. He sounds like someone I used to play in Modern at my local college. I think the one thing that really bothers me is seeing your opponent looking at the top cards of their library on your turn as if they played some invisible card that allowed them to scry. Another problem I have are people who play their decks sideways and try to draw two or three cards at a time (by straightening their deck up they're able to make it look like they're drawing one card when drawing possible three at a time).
I could go on about the people in my area... it's ridiculous.
December 15, 2014 9:23 a.m.
Why do you want to vent so badly? Offenders in Mtg are hardly the worst - my motto is forgive, forget and ignore - easiest thing to do in an LGS environment.
December 15, 2014 9:34 a.m.
Schuesseled says... #5
I had a friend who had a dragon tribal deck with only 8 lands in it, which of course he kept at the top and never shuffled. Justifying this bullshit by saying "I always put them at the top, even if I lose...so....".
December 15, 2014 10:15 a.m.
GeeksterPlays says... #6
I'm quite a stickler for the rules, but am willing to forgive anyone for their first even second trespass... however when someone does something for 3rd time in the same game, then I have to make a point of telling them outright to stop playing incorrectly. New players often are nervous and/or concentrating on the play they want to make and forget simple things like when to untap, or even to draw! But we all had to learn at some point, give them some slack (except for the guy who puts all his land at the top. Yeah, that's an auto-never-play-this-guy right there).
December 15, 2014 10:52 a.m.
NuBByThuMB says... #7
So here's a story for you guys with a little bit of an intro for you. I know a player, we'll call him Bob for this story, that happens to take the game over the top serious.
Bob is a Legacy collector. I would say player but he spends more time dismantling and building decks than he does playing because he can't find a deck that "plays right for him." Bob is one of those players who isn't nearly as good as the money he throws at the game in piles, but would like you to think otherwise because of the fact.
The Scene: Gatecrash Draft semifinals. Game 2. Bob vs Me. Now, Bob is a respectable drafter. He knows how the format works to the extent of being able to intimidate his opponents into making play errors. He's big, he's loud and typically he's angry when he's losing, often heard saying demeaning things like "did you top deck that, you f--king luck sack?!"
So when Bob and I sit down to play our match, I discover that my Boros build (lacking any real early game) is probably going to get rolled over by his Boros Swag-ro Build. He happened to take all the creatures I was lacking, but my deck ensured that if I could durdle until land number four, I was in like Flynn. And this is exactly how game one played out as I drew into three out of five of my early game dudes to make trades early and then outclass him later in the game. Bob wasn't happy, actually rather sour that he couldn't draw an effective attacker.
Moving into game two, I boarded in two copies of homing lightning, noticing that Bob had already played two copies each of Daring Skyjek and Skynight Leggionaire.
The game begins and I draw nuts, three early game creatures, three lands and a homing lightning. I knew it was gonna be a good one when Bob mulls to six. Bob leads with a land and passes and I follow with my only one drop, soon bringing the board to a state on turn five where I have three creatures to his three Daring Skyjeks and life totals are low. On my turn five I swing in, homing lightning a skyjek and watch as the entire shop stops to see what ensues next.
Bob is a sore loser to say the least. Names were called, giant dice, playmats and cards were thrown across the room indiscriminately. Bob doesn't like losing. The shop owner doesn't even bat an eyelash, resolving to the same conclusions I have. Bob takes this game way too seriously.
And indeed not my only encounter with Bob. Later on in Theros block I would come to face him again when I Griptide the same Ogre (his only creature) three turns in a row. "Are you f--king kidding me?!" I believe are his words. After the third griptide, Bob mysteriously comes up with a fifth land (a drop he'd been missing since griptide number one) and proceeds to win. If I had been more attentive to the number of cards in his hand, I am almost certain I could have caught him on the double draw the last time around. Bob likes to think he can get away with cheating, but that's why I havent revisited that store in almost six months, now. Because it has been found that there's little the shop owner will do to quell the storm that is Bob.
December 15, 2014 11:17 a.m.
people who keep flicking their cards.
they think they look pro (coz the pros do it)
but all they are doing is wasting our time and their energy instead of concentrating on what is happening in their hand and on the board.
December 15, 2014 11:35 a.m.
NuBByThuMB says... #9
"Flicking"? I shuffle my hand regularly. I have ADHD and having something mind numbing and simple to do with my hands while I play helps me concentrate.
December 15, 2014 11:39 a.m.
GeeksterPlays says... #10
I've found that flicking my cards only happens when I play against slower players... if it takes you a minute or more to decide which of the 2 cards in your hand to play then a) learn to plan ahead more, and b) don't begrudge me occupying myself during your boring overly long turn.
December 15, 2014 11:45 a.m.
The guy bringing the tuned competitive EDH decks to game night (our friend group's kitchen table), I get that you want to be playing good decks, I do too, but wrathing the board every turn, or ever saying this phrase, "I picked this general because his colors give me access to every tuck effect" leads to unfun games for everyone at the table. When your favorite deck is refered to as "The Fun Police" it's time to think about toning it down when we're just having a couple beers and sharing stories over a game of cards.
December 15, 2014 11:50 a.m.
I once played in this Modern tournament for fun. There was something wrong with my DCI number, so one of the persons in the shop called someone, and asked if I could borrow his DCI number (which was actually quite nice). Then he also said; "Don't expect any Planeswalker Points to go into your DCI-thing", like, I wouldn't win anything.... This made me a little angry, but then again, I forgot it.
The thing that happens is, that I the meet this player in the tournament. I was playing with my mill deck, he with his delver deck. He had the attitude like; "This is going to be easy".... It wasn't. I milled him first game. And I milled him second game... He got really offended. Saying things like; "Who expects a mill deck in a serious tournament!".... He was an idiot... But I won against him, so I didn't really care. (Went 2-2... First tournament... YA)
December 15, 2014 noon
Casual players who get upset about losing and netdecking are the absolute worst people to play with.
December 15, 2014 12:13 p.m.
KnightsBattlecry001 says... #14
People who take the game way too seriously that get extremely mad when they get beat, and players who are just assholes. The ones who think they are better than anyone else, make fun of someone for playing something that they should have possibly waited on playing, etc. Those two kinds of people are the ones I can't stand.
December 15, 2014 1 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #15
The worst kind of person to play against, in my opinion, is anyone who can't accept the fact that mana screw / flood is part of the game. I've had people swear at me, glare at me, and throw things at me because I beat them due to mana issues. It's absolutely terrible that grown adults can't handle when things don't go their way.
On the otherhand, the worst person to play against; I played Owen Turtenwald at an SCG event one time. Ho-lee-shit, i've never had a judge called on me so many times in a single event. So, this is my first larger-than-FNM event, and round 2 i'm faced up against this mother trucker. I'm playing Rakdos Aggro (Rakdos Cackler, Mogis's Marauder, etc) and I think he's on mono black at this point. I win the die roll, which gets me a snark and a "Well awesome", and proceed to play a swamp cackler opener. Because my round one went to time (playing against Esper control), I'm still in a rather picked up mind state, and had dropped my swamp and cackler at the same time, which netted a judge call. Judge came over, and there was some BS call of fast play, but with no actual game warning. After the judge leaves, I hear a "How did you even win round one?" from the other side of the table...Turn three comes along, and I - whose hands don't really ever stop moving - accidentally pull the top card of my deck as I draw to reveal the second card (It did that thing where the next top card kind of fell off, and is leaning against the deck). I can't see the card, but he can and I get another judge call, trying to make the claim of revealing extra cards. I won that one as well because I couldn't actually see the card. Game one ends with me looking a Desecration Demon in the face with no answers. Now, because mono black was a new thing at the time, I had no idea what he could have been playing and had no idea how to sideboard. I took just slightly longer than 2 minutes to side, and got a judge call for slow play. At this point, the judge is just chilling at our table because of how many times he's made the trip over.
Basically where this story is going is to the point of people who actually play professionally can and will still be that guy who tries to eek out wins wherever possible and be a dick about everything. Seven judge calls over the course of a match over pointless things that don't actually affect the game is far too many to forgive.
December 15, 2014 1:04 p.m.
Schuesseled says... #16
@NuBByThuMB Sounds like Bob isn't the only sore loser, wah wah wah.
December 15, 2014 1:34 p.m.
Schuesseled says... #17
@xlaleclx I disagree, I believe it is players who netdeck and complain about losing to casuals are the worst!
@NuBByThuMB I should perhaps explain that remark. Bob throws a hissy fit when he loses, you don't come back for 6 months. :P
December 15, 2014 1:39 p.m.
KSULongneck says... #18
I hate playing games against guys with foreign printings. They may know the card by its art but I dont. And now I have to trust that this is the card he says it is and that it does what he says it does. Also, I was watching a game of modern between Jund and a UR delver deck. I had been talking about my Hydras homebrew and this guy totally wrote me off. He said "No, these are REAL modern decks" as if it was stupid to play anything but a deck from the most recent Top 8. @$$hole.
December 15, 2014 1:40 p.m.
I love the Owen story. It really shows another side of "making magic your living". If he can eek out a win by tormenting you psycologically, he can by all means get a free win by torturing newbie. I have felt like you all the time in competitive tournaments.
December 15, 2014 1:43 p.m.
NuBByThuMB says... #20
I'm not sore over losing. I'm sore that someone who claims to be good isn't and acts like he is. Especially because he cheats. Why would I continually subject myself to an unfair environment? I don't call that sore losing. I call that smart thinking. And for anyone who thinks that cheating is okay, it isn't.
December 15, 2014 1:43 p.m.
omnipotato says... #21
That one guy who thinks he's literally the best Magic player ever and that his homebrews will beat any netdeck, then ends up losing every match in FNM, blames it on mana issues, and starts yelling at people for netdecking instead of being original.
December 15, 2014 1:54 p.m.
I think the worst that I've seen was some guy mocking a 12-13 year old kid who hadn't been playing long at a card shop sealed event, and this guy was probably upper 20's or lower 30's. At the same sealed event, Maze End, after I was clearly going to beat a couple of different opponents, and they played something in a way that it didn't make much sense, I'd stop them and be like: "Do you really want to play that now because if I don't block it doesn't do any good, so you should wait until I declare blockers." or "Wait and play that on my turn so you don't take as much damage next turn." Again it was younger people who clearly were just learning to play, I wouldn't do that to one of the 40 year old players there who clearly had been playing a while, let them misplay, but when learning, I appreciated people pointing out stuff like that, and they seemed to get it.
December 15, 2014 2:01 p.m.
MoosemastheDestroyer says... #23
The best ragequit I've ever witnessed was when I spammed the field with 6/6 dragon tokens (I had 32 out when things started getting tense). His life was at 3 and he fogged me for a turn (so even though he's fogged me and buying time he's also making the situation worse with my board up to 96 6/6 dragon tokens because I had 3 Utvara Hellkite out). He smiled because I assumed he had something he was waiting to luck into with his Elves (at which time he's forgotten I have Quicksilver Amulet out untapped and doesn't know I have Scourge of Valkas sitting in hand), he tells me I'm going to lose next turn so I silently just kinda tapped my amulet and flashed in Valkas for game and went "yeah... no..." and in this moment of shock he does, quite possibly, the best ragequit ever. He literally tries to flip the table and fails because he couldn't lift it so he knocked over my deck saying "you can go **** yourself man."
Has anyone else played against someone who was just boning themselves in the end and you toy around with them trying not to laugh? Because I have my moments where I like to mess with people...
December 15, 2014 2:06 p.m.
GeminiSpartanX says... #24
I dislike the local spike who thinks he knows absolutely everything about magic, but in reality he just reads the articles on starcity just like others (myself included). The worst is when he rips off newer players when trading. I can understand wanting to make a competitive deck and wanting to play the game a little seriously (I mean, you have to be serious about magic to spend that much $$ on a competitive deck), but taking advantage of newer players to trade away their most valuable cards for junk is low. A while back he did that to my cousin, and it still gets my blood boiling. (His Erebos, God of the Dead for my cousin's Thassa, God of the Sea, and 4x foil Lightning Bolt (fire vs lightning versions). It was during RTR/THS standard, and the thassa itself was worth more than the erebos. Jerk!)
December 15, 2014 2:19 p.m.
I think that's fair. I remember attending this big Ravnica block draft event at a local college with plenty of new players. I helped people out for the first few rounds. These guys blew instances on main phases, forgot to draw cards, attacked with creatures under summoning sickness, etc. You should never make players of this caliber feel bad about playing. That's just awful for the community. Obviously I shut my mouth during the later rounds when players got better, but people out is something you should actively look to do.
I rode to second place on top of some Daggerdrome Imps and a lucky Lord of the Void that day.
December 15, 2014 2:20 p.m.
Pretty much anyone that forgets its a fucking game.
December 15, 2014 2:45 p.m.
I love magic, but I strongly dislike the attitudes of a large portion of magic players.
December 15, 2014 2:48 p.m.
Blind_Guardian says... #28
People who cheats or always rage quit after a loss is never fun to play against. And them blaming everything from mana flooding to lack of sleep.
December 15, 2014 2:50 p.m.
I really loathe picking on new players in general. My first trade ever was for a duel decks Jace Beleren. He was 5 dollars at the time. I didn't know that. I thought all planeswalkers were super expensive and good. Being a blue player, I felt like I had to own him. I traded a Fiendslayer Paladin and a Devout Invocation, as well as some other uncommons from M14. It ended up being something like 9 dollars in value at the time. I felt pretty pissed.
I still have that Jace and actually use it in EDH. He's climbed to 13 dollars now, which is nice. I came on top in the end.
I had a similar experience with this kid brand new to the game. He's never played it but walks into the store with his friend. He's got about 20 dollars on him and buys Ravnica boosters. He ends up pulling a Watery Grave. There's a guy all over him trying to convince this kid that since he's not interested in Dimir, he should just take a few commons and uncommons in green for the card "So that he can start building a deck."
I felt so bad for this kid. I ended up trading an entire Fat Pack worth of green and red stuff for the Watery Grave. God knows I lost out on that trade, but I wasn't using them and he sure as hell got a base for a good intro deck int the colors he was looking for. I don't think he had any idea of the value of the cards he handled that day.
December 15, 2014 3:03 p.m.
derKochXXL says... #30
So there are a few guys at my local store who are always a little louder. They've been coming there forever and are friends with the owner and such. I don't really mind them for having fun. M15 pre though I played one of them, who was just aweful to play against. Before the game even started he boasted to me and a kid that was sitting at the same table (who strangely enough seemed to be his pupil. Wtf he's a teacher?) about how long he was playing mtg and that he'd been to a protour. I just let him talk. So I had a pool that really supported the artifact deck and just build it. I don't take pres that seriously. So I play T1 Mountain, Ornithopter, he jokes that one shouldn't ever play this and tells it to his pupil, who is playing very concentrated to my left, i play Hammerhand followed by a T2 Ensoul Artifact and beat him T4. Game 2 I basically had an ensouled Darksteel Citadel T3 and an Aeronaut Tinkerer T4 and beat him rather quickly again. He is really angry and says that my deck isn't a real deck and starts to leave until i calmly remind him to sign the slip. He grunts signs and leaves. After that, one of his friends tells me that "he's just a sore loser".You can be a sore loser all day long but pull yourself together when playing a game.
Arvail says... #2
I've got a friend of a friend who's known to cheat. Whatever. I don't play with him often and I hawkeye him so hard when we play that he doesn't get away with it. I let him know that I'm onto him.
No, what bothers me is that he was in a bit of a situation with his family, so my friend allowed him to crash at his place for a few days until things settled down. A few days after the friend of a friend left my friend's place and went back home, my friend noticed things had gone missing. He stole electronics and valuables.
You can be a bad magic player. I don't care. I'll teach you as best as I can if you ask me for help and want to get better. I'll correct you when you interpret rules incorrectly and I'll try not to make you feel bad about it. Be a bad person, and we have problems.
December 15, 2014 9:22 a.m.