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Posted on May 23, 2010, 10:10 a.m. by andrerafa
I have several question that I never managed to solve. I hope someone might enlighten me.
1-When using enchantment that take control of creatures, for example [vapor snare] and [mind control], does the enchanted creature sufer from sumoning sickness?
2- Do creature with tap abilities or sacrifice abilities use them when the enter the battlefield. More exactly sacrificint in the same turn they come in, and taping them in my oponents turn after mine. Sumoning sickness states that creature cannot be enter the battlefield and tap in the same turn but can I use them in my oponents turn?
3- For example my oponent has an [anowan, the ruin sage] I summon and [undead slayer],can I exile his anowon during his turn before I have to sacrifice a creature?
4-If I make a planeswalker indestructible, will it be destroid if he runs out of loyalty counters?
5-In mill decks does the oponent lose imediatly after he runs out of library or only when he tries to draw a card?
6- Can damaged suffered from cards such as [Sign in blood] be prevented because of the effects of cards that prevent damage to me no matter what the sorce
What is a good general (not over $15) that is fun, unique, and easy to build around? I am pretty new to EDH and Magic in general. Preferably a general that can do some pretty cool things! Also preferably the general has black in his color identity!
December 1, 2013 9:36 p.m.
Smith_and_Tonic says... #5
What sort of style do you like to play? Do you like to control the board or maybe aggro each opponent or play big creatures? Each of these factor into what general you want to play.
You can also go on the the gather and look at every legendary and see what catches your eye.
December 1, 2013 9:45 p.m.
Yeah, I like controlling the board and forcing my opponents to do things they don't want such as discarding and stuff. Or do fun things like equip a pinger with Sword of Kaldra
December 1, 2013 9:47 p.m.
Grand Arbiter Augustin IV is my favorite control based commander.
December 1, 2013 9:49 p.m.
Smith_and_Tonic says... #8
You rarely see Kamahl, Pit Fighter played in edh. He is a good casual commander and lets you throw lightning bolts around.
December 1, 2013 9:49 p.m.
Board controlling? Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Forcing their hand? Basandra, Battle Seraph
Basandra is also good with Pillowfort, which involves chilling and board control
December 1, 2013 9:50 p.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #10
Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief is pretty darn good. So is Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet
December 1, 2013 9:53 p.m.
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord really fun its cheap general use Lord of Extinction makes things interesting
December 1, 2013 9:59 p.m.
Thanks guys for all of the help! Right now I am thinking about Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief or Kamahl, Pit Fighter but I am still unsure and will be looking through the gatherer and other peoples decks and such! Thanks!
December 1, 2013 10:06 p.m.
Nekusar, the Mindrazer looks really fun, but for know I think I am going to stick to single or two color generals until I get the hang of building EDH decks and playing the format. I will for sure make an EDH for him eventually.
December 1, 2013 10:14 p.m.
elderscrollsnick says... #16
I would highly recommend [Momir Vig, Simic Visionary] view it here http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=107506
I Really like it because it is like a tutor that keeps on tutoring. Most edu decks are not mono colored. Sorry it is not the black card you were looking for but it is great for a beginner.
Or you could just buy a pre-constructed commander deck
December 1, 2013 10:20 p.m.
I built a really great Merieke Ri Berit deck that is fun, though can also draw in loads of hate...people just don't like River Song. :/ Olivia Voldaren and Lavinia of the Tenth is also pretty easy to build around. I'm in the midst of making a tribal deck revolving around Memnarch . Rakdos, Lord of Riots seems really easy to build around. I played a really nasty deck with this at the helm, Tsabo Tavoc . What colours/playstyle do you enjoy?
December 1, 2013 10:26 p.m.
McClair_Bear says... #18
Glissa, the Traitor and Grimgrin, Corpse-Born are my two favorites atm. Both are aggro with a little control, and have black in them!
December 1, 2013 10:30 p.m.
yeah getting one of the new precons is a good option and 3 colors isn't all that hard to build as it opens up many options, 1-2 color generals are usually more limited in their uses.
For instance Sigarda, Host of Herons will often be either an angel tribal deck or a tron deck, while Oloro, Ageless Ascetic can be a pure control deck, a superfriends deck, an artifact deck, an artifact combo deck, a lifegain deck, a lifegain combo deck, an esper combo deck, an extort deck, a Stealer of Secrets deck, and so on and so forth.
EDH is also normally a format that you play what you want to play and you can fine tune it to suit your play group.
December 1, 2013 10:36 p.m.
I agree with the above. My first deck was Vorel of the Hull Clade and the deck started off as Evolve all the time. Now it's more of a "counters-matter" deck running cards like Ring of Three Wishes , Kalonian Hydra , and Champion of Lambholt . Just find something you like and go with it.
December 2, 2013 2:03 a.m.
Phodebimos says... #21
Demarge: Too bad Sigarda, Host of Herons has been banned as a commander :-)
December 2, 2013 12:55 p.m.
favorite control general Sen Triplets
if you want something cheap that you can build around Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
December 2, 2013 1:28 p.m.
Phodebimos Where is your source on the Sigarda, Host of Herons ban? She's not banned (commander only or otherwise) according to the go to for EDH rules nor any mention on Gatherer Is it just a local play group decision?
December 2, 2013 1:29 p.m.
Didgeridooda says... #24
Go with Roon of the Hidden Realm . He seems fun.
December 2, 2013 5:32 p.m.
AnagonLordofSnakes says... #25
if you want them to have black in their identity try out Skullbriar, the Walking Grave a lot of the cards from newer sets work very well with him (golgari stuff derp) Corpsejack Menace and crew
December 2, 2013 5:40 p.m.
I know someone who has fun playing Chainer, Dementia Master .
December 2, 2013 6:12 p.m.
Phodebimos don't scare me like that... cards not listed on this link are not banned in my eyes >.> http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php
December 2, 2013 7:21 p.m.
Nath of the Gilt-Leaf is surprisingly good someone in my play group rocks it, it can be played in both aggro or control either way pretty good
I built my first EDH around Doran, the Siege Tower and am currently working on Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
December 3, 2013 5:03 a.m.
Phodebimos says... #29
DukeNicky I can't seem to find the source article... I clearly remember reading an article that explained why it was banned, somewhere between one and two months ago. However, as I can't find it back- I stand corrected. Please ignore my previous post.
December 3, 2013 8:42 a.m.
Bobgalarneau says... #30
Phodebimos maybe it was banned for french rules EDH?
mistergreen527 says... #2
1) A creature has summoning sickness unless you owned it at the beginning of YOUR turn. This is why cards like Act of Treason give the creature you steal haste.
Rule 302.6. A creatures activated ability with the tap symbol or the untap symbol in its activation cost cant be activated unless the creature has been under its controllers control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. A creature cant attack unless it has been under its controllers control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. This rule is informally called the summoning sickness rule.
2) Nope, your creature has to be under your control since the beginning of your turn to be able to use any abilities that use the tap symbol (see above rule).
3) Nope, you have to wait until your turn before you can use Undead Slayer 's ability.
4) A planeswalker with no loyalty counters will go to the graveyard as a state-based effect. Indestructibility will prevent destroy effects, but the only state-based effect it prevents is lethal damage. However, the lethal damage state-based effect only affects creatures.
Rule 700.4. If a permanent is indestructible, rules and effects cant destroy it. (See rule 701.6, Destroy.) Such permanents are not destroyed by lethal damage, and they ignore the lethal-damage state-based action (see rule 704.5g). Rules or effects may cause an indestructible permanent to be sacrificed, put into a graveyard, or exiled.
704.5g If a creature has toughness greater than 0, and the total damage marked on it is greater than or equal to its toughness, that creature has been dealt lethal damage and is destroyed. Regeneration can replace this event.
Rule 704.5i If a planeswalker has loyalty 0, its put into its owners graveyard.
5) The opponent has to try to draw a card from his/her empty library to lose.
Rule 704.5b If a player attempted to draw a card from an empty library since the last time state-based actions were checked, he or she loses the game.
6) Sign in Blood doesn't actually do any damage, it makes you lose life. Prevent damage effects can't prevent you from losing life.
May 23, 2010 10:33 a.m.