M14 in cockatrice

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Posted on July 19, 2013, 1:34 p.m. by miracleHat

i have been trying to get the m14 cards into cockatrice and here is what i have so far:

cockatrice itself

the cards.zip patch

and a mac

What am i missing?

miracleHat says... #1

any ideas to what i am doing wrong. i go to the preferences page and press the button with the ... in it. and i click the cards.zip. when i restart cockatrice, it doesn't have the cards...

July 19, 2013 1:36 p.m.

bman5604 says... #2

Why are you not using mtgo?

July 19, 2013 1:45 p.m.

GreAsyG says... #3

I assume because of money

July 19, 2013 1:46 p.m.

miracleHat says... #4

good question, mtgo costs money, which i have a very limited supply of. cockatrice is free and i can make whatever i want without a thought (with m14 i will have an unlimited supply of cards to work with), also

July 19, 2013 1:47 p.m.

bman5604 says... #5

With that said it makes since but your taking away from the game you love by using a program that has no affiliation with Wizards!

July 19, 2013 1:51 p.m.

Krayhaft says... #6

The problem is that you're using a mac.

July 19, 2013 1:54 p.m.

miracleHat says... #7


July 19, 2013 1:55 p.m.

Krayhaft says... #8

I was kidding. I don't know if cockatrice is mac-compatible.

July 19, 2013 1:56 p.m.

miracleHat says... #9

oh, well there may be hope for me. it most likely is because it is a mac since occasionally when i try to open cockatrice, it says it can't open it (yadee yadee...).

July 19, 2013 1:58 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #10

bman5604, your logic is so flawed, it registers a 9 on the cuil scale.

July 19, 2013 2:10 p.m.

bman5604 says... #11

How so mstancea. Is it a site developed and ran by wizards? Does it put back into the game you play like paper magic? And let me guess you use the product and feel fine stealing from magic don't you?

July 19, 2013 2:14 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #12

Let me get this straight, paying money for virtual cards will make me enjoy magic more? Pardon my french, but that is utter bullshit.

I don't use Cockatrice but I use Forge, which is a very similar program, and it is the reason I have developed so quickly as a magic player and as a deck builder. It is not stealing, and moreover, at times it is more fun than playing paper magic with my friends.

If you took the point of "it hurts wizards and that's why you shouldn't do it" then I would agree with you, but I have to disagree with you and with anyone who argues that it is less fun than MTGO or paper magic.

July 19, 2013 2:20 p.m.

bman5604 says... #13

Never said anything about enjoying it more or less. said it takes from wizards which takes from the game you love by not using mtgo. and it is stealing its not associated with wizards and is using there name and product without written consent.

July 19, 2013 2:25 p.m.

miracleHat says... #14

look i know that this question is supremely irrelevant, but why do they call it paper magic instead of cardboard magic?

July 19, 2013 2:26 p.m.

bman5604 says... #15

its printed on several layers of paper. If you take a cheap card like a basic land and rip it half you can see the layers.

July 19, 2013 2:29 p.m.

zandl says... #16

@bman5604: Playing on Cockatrice doesn't hurt anybody. I'd say the vast majority of players who use Cockatrice wouldn't pay for MTGO even if Cockatrice were permanently shut down, which can't really happen. Numerous message boards and polls from after the first server shut-down suggest I'm correct.

That being said, Cockatrice generates no money for anybody and the average user plays Magic IRL, feeding the greed machine that is Hasbro.

In fact, if it weren't for Cockatrice, some players might not have ever started. If you were just getting into a card game but didn't have the money to start playing anything but crap-kitchen-table-crap-pauper, how would you feed your addiction? By playing Cockatrice or giving up?

So, explain to us all, again, how Cockatrice hurts Magic.

July 19, 2013 2:36 p.m.

dcarpntr says... #17

Actually, myself and a lot of people I know use Cockatrice to playtest a deck for PTQ's before we invest in the paper cards. With that intention, Cockatrice is increasing sales of cards that I may not have purchased otherwise. I'm not against using MTGO, but there is something to be said about playtesting before purchasing cards. Do you feel that using proxies is stealing? Because proxies are what many people use to playtest decks in person before buying cards as well.

Also, saying Cockatrice is stealing from Wizards is also saying that the playtester on this site is stealing from Wizards. Please don't try to argue that you can't play games with the playtester because you can. You just need to open the decks in different tabs/windows and there you have it, the equivalent of Cockatrice set to play a local game where you play by yourself.

July 19, 2013 2:36 p.m.

zandl says... #18

And about the stealing thing - If nobody's making money off stolen goods, wouldn't you just see it as an honor that so many people appreciate what you make?

You can call it stealing all you want, but then your argument simply boils down to "stealing is bad and you're bad for it," without anywhere to go beyond that.

July 19, 2013 2:38 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #19

July 19, 2013 2:43 p.m.

gufymike says... #20

There is the sense that it is stealing, the money not earned from players who would play MTGO if there was no alternative is still stealing from their products. yes this logic is valid logic, It is simply two competing companies offering the same product. The big difference is one of the companies doesn't own any of the patents or intellectual rights to market the product. how would you feel if something you sold/invented/bank rolled was given away for free?

If you still think cockatrice (as the example, not to point fingers, since there are other products) is OK, then you should never get into business unless you are willing to give away your profits in a similar manner.

As for many saying they wouldn't do mtgo, many more would if given no alternative. What is voiced is never the full picture.

With that said, I only play paper, use cockatrice locally to build and goldfish and playtest against my ownself, have an mtgo account I don't invest in.

July 19, 2013 3:30 p.m.

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