Instant as a Supertype

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Posted on Aug. 28, 2017, 3:26 p.m. by DemonDragonJ

Some players have asked about the possibility of eliminating the instant type and simply making sorceries with the flash mechanic, but WotC has stated that doing so would be far too difficult, an idea with which I agree. However, another interesting idea occurred to me: what about eliminating the flash mechanic and making "instant" a supertype (akin to "snow" or "legendary") that could be put on cards that previously had flash? I know that it would be too difficult to implement, but it is still an interesting idea. What does everyone else say about that?

That would break many many cards like Mystical Tutor, Merchant Scroll, Mystical Teachings, etc. Seems like too much trouble to try to get everything to run smoothly with that.

August 28, 2017 3:35 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #3

Raging_Squiggle, how, exactly, would such a change "break" those cards?

August 28, 2017 3:48 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #5

: tutor Snapcaster Mage or any former instant seems broken to me. Invest in Delvers.

Ignoring that, supertypes need to modify a type. What happens to all of the current instants? They just become instant sorcery cards? No need to such large-scale redundancy.

August 28, 2017 4:09 p.m.

Lame_Duck says... #6

It seems like it would cause more or less all the same problems that changing instants into flash sorceries would, plus it puts extra pressure on the limited space of the type line. Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir, for example, would be a "Legendary Instant Creature - Human Wizard".

August 28, 2017 5:23 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #7

Lame_Duck: in that case, why not simply use smaller text? It amazes me that WoTC is not willing to use smaller text to fit more text onto cards.

August 29, 2017 10:14 p.m.

They have, but the more text is on the card the harder it is to read and more complex it becomes. Ice Cauldron, Call to Arms, Dance of the Dead, etc.

August 30, 2017 2:51 a.m.

Funkydiscogod says... #9

The first thing we would have to do is give up on the idea of rewording cards to preserve functionality. Mystical Teachings would need to say "Instants and Sorceries", and Mystical Tutor would need to say "Sorceries", but the confusion caused by the old and new wording would be too much.

That means, some cards' functions will change. There would be some additional functionality added to cards like: Dispel, which would now be able to target some creatures, and Young Pyromancer would trigger on a few random things, and Goblin Dark-Dwellers would be able to cast things they shouldn't have any right to.

This change would have an impact on some mechanics, like Delirium, which was made with the idea that Instants are not Sorceries. Turn one Fetchland into Tarfire would activate Delirium. Not to mention what that would do to your Turn two play. It would make it stronger, sure, and it'd be something they'd have to keep an eye on.

The only card I can tell that that change would actually break, is Torrential Gearhulk, who could cast Torrential Gearhulks out of your graveyard, but even then, it wouldn't make it ban-worthy; it'd just make it a pretty good modern card.

Anyway...I think this is a good idea.

August 31, 2017 8:18 p.m.

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