Extended, what happened?
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Posted on Dec. 14, 2016, 10:23 a.m. by Pinewoodboy0324
I am rather new to the competitive and tournament side of Magic, and I was wondering with Frontier, what happened to extended? All I know is that the rotating format is dead. Could someone please explain to me why this happened, and why it hasn't come back. (I understand if that sounds stupid, but I really want to know)
Thanks and Happy Hunting
It deaded b/c, as epoch said, it was just the best standard devks from recent standards duking it out. Not surprisingly, people would that to be very boring.
That is why i am so suprisied by the seeming popularity of frontier, since it is just extended 2.0.
December 14, 2016 10:36 a.m.
There's not much to glean from it but you can read the official announcement of Extended's death here.
December 14, 2016 11:13 a.m.
Pinewoodboy0324 says... #6
Now, do you guys want Extended to come back (if I understand what everyone is saying against Frontier for instance) or another rotating format?
Just curious, Happy Hunting.
December 14, 2016 5:40 p.m.
jandrobard says... #7
Extended wasn't nearly as popular as modern, and much of the time was less popular that standard. It had enough of a card pool for some busted cards to slip through, but not enough for standard and extended decks to be very different or for every color/archetype to be viable.
December 14, 2016 6:43 p.m.
Oh god! hell no! Extended needs to stay dead. The reason i dislike frontier is b/c it is basically extended 2.o right now.
December 14, 2016 9:22 p.m.
Pinewoodboy0324 says... #9
Ok, I just wants to see some opinions other than very close play group
December 14, 2016 11:53 p.m.
Frontier is nothing more than Modern Lite. It is a non-rotating format with a smaller card pool. What I find interesting is reading posts where people are eager to dig into a fresh format with a smaller card pool. Problem is, none of the problems inherent to Modern are truly addressed. As sets get added on, you will see the same problems develop in Frontier. What happens then? Will players just set a new start point to shrink the card pool to something more manageable? Why not just have a built in rotation?
One of my co-workers used to play Modern. Aside from the pricing, his biggest issue with the format was that there's a collection of powerful decks to beat that never really go away. Worse yet, the power level is so high, that there's only a handful of cards from each set that find play in Modern. In this way the format seems stale.
Extended was the best of both worlds. The original 7-year rotation had a large card pool (3.5x the size of Standard). You could craft a deck and, if it was good, keep it for a long time. The power level is lower than Modern, meaning new cards were more likely to contribute and allow decks to evolve over time. As with any format with a large card pool, we will see dominant deck types from time to time, but at least they will eventually rotate out.
I personally liked Extended very much. An earlier post complained it was nothing more than different standard era decks fighting each other. I would admit there was a lot of that in the 4-year rotation format, but the the 7-year format was much deeper with many more card interactions that transcended any 2-year block. The format never felt stale.
December 15, 2016 8:11 p.m.
Extended was one of the best formats in Magic for a long time with a lot of diversity.
Then Bitterblossom happened, followed by Jace, the Mind Sculptor. The DCI failed to implement the correct bannings to ensure format diversity, and people got sick of non-stop mirrors into 6 or more of the top 8 of every tournament being the same deck. By the time Bitterblossom rotated out, Cawblade had cycled in. They didn't ban anything until around a month or two before Modern was announced.
December 19, 2016 7:26 p.m.
Tyrant-Thanatos says... #12
Glad to see some actual love for Extended in here. Extended was the only format I played for years, basically from when I started (8th edition) up until the day it died. I sort of drifted between formats from there, and honestly still do. I played Modern for long enough to actually get a deck together that was good and that I enjoyed (many Modern competitive deck types I find incredibly dull to play, looking at you Twin), played for maybe a month and got sick of it. Standard has never seemed appealing in the slightest. I like to make my build my own, and Standard just feels like it doesn't have that opportunity. The meta is pretty well defined, and the card pool is tiny.
Lately I've grown attached to EDH, but I don't know how long that'll last me.
Epochalyptik says... #2
Extended was phased out in favor of Modern.
My understanding is that Extended tended to just be Standard 2.0, where people could continue to play the best Standard decks for another few years. It wasn't as diverse a format, and rotations meant it really didn't offer anything over Standard besides a marginally larger card pool.
December 14, 2016 10:28 a.m.