I'd direct this question to the gear forum. Don't think it really qualifies as a rules question.
June 16, 2018 7:19 p.m.
dragon shields are widely regarded for their durability. but regardless of brand, its generally better to just go with plain solid colored sleeves instead of a something with a fancy design if durability is a concern.
June 16, 2018 11:26 p.m.
I’ve been buying dragon shields for a while now. Both the gloss finish and the matte. For initial appearance, the gloss are better due to the shine, however for extended playability, the matte finish is better. Over time, the gloss would start sticking together and making it harder to shuffle or draw.
June 17, 2018 12:26 a.m.
The sleeves with designs on them are cool but it doesn’t take long for the corners of the artwork to start curling and pulling away from the sleeve itself.
The ultra-pro sleeves are fine, however they’re not hard to see through the back. If you use reversed proxies, DF cards, or whatnot, those might not be the best choices.
I speak all from personal experience and overall preference.
June 17, 2018 12:29 a.m.
PlatinumKnight815 Are Dragon Shield sleeves made for double sleeving?
June 17, 2018 11:57 a.m.
shirouu you can definitely double sleeve with dragon shields. I would definitely recommend getting perfect fits, i prefer the smoke brand perfect fits. I would also recommend getting the MATTE dragon shields they hold up the best I feel.
June 17, 2018 3:43 p.m.
As PlatinumKnight815 said, Dragon Shield matte or double matte are generally perceived as the best sleeves, and they also recently released some very high quality art-backed sleeves that will probably hold up for a long time. I have not personally used any art-back DS sleeves yet though.
Additionally, Deck Pro Eclipse sleeves are also very good, have a slightly different feel, and I believe they are all completely opaque. Fewer colors to choose from, though.
Both of which are fine for double sleeving. Hope that helps. =)
June 17, 2018 4:53 p.m.
Gattison I don't double sleeve my cards so would the Dragon Shield sleeves be too large?
June 17, 2018 5:03 p.m.
Nope, not at all. You won't even notice the half-a-millimeter of "extra space." lol =D
June 17, 2018 5:11 p.m.
Dragon shields and ultra pro eclipses are your best bets. Shields are a tad more durable and ultras have an anti glare finish so your foils won't shine the same. Also I know a few people who dont like the shuffle feel on ultras I dont mind it though
June 17, 2018 6:37 p.m.
I use Dragon Shield matte and they’re great, they last a long time. I don’t double sleeve either.
I have heard good things about the Ultra Pro Eclipse as well.
June 17, 2018 8:03 p.m.
For this or any other product questions, I highly recommend checking out the Professor at Tolarian Community College on YouTube. Link
June 17, 2018 11:38 p.m.
I prefer to use Ultra-Pro Matte.
However, the cards tend to slide out the top as you shuffle over time. I have to inch them back down every so often.
Double-sleeving helps alleviate this issue. It's caused from the sleeve having just a wee bit too much space.
But quality-wise they are strong. Don't rip unless you really try to. Color-wise, about 90% are truly matte. The standard bright red are slightly transparent (maybe I had a faulty batch?) So double-faced cards might be an issue.
If nothing else, just go standard black.
But make sure you get the Matte finish. The non-matte finish are prone to slipping around, and your library will literally slide over on itself. Matte is a little but harder to shuffle but you'll get the hang of it.
They also DO prevent against curling. Just don't be a riffle shuffle player. You'll bend your cards, but that's probably any sleeve as it's more about tension than the product.
Here's a link so you can see what the packaging looks like so you don't accidentally order the wrong product if you decide to test them.
June 18, 2018 1:36 a.m.
The top sleeves I have are Light Blue (turquoise) Ultra Pro Eclipse for my Highlander, Dragoshield Green Matte for the Brawl and Dragonshield Art for the EDH.
I am satisfied with all three and recommend them above all else with one note: I have not tested the art too much since I got them a couple of weeks ago.
June 18, 2018 4:41 a.m.
Dragon Shields are great but they are NOT 100% opaque and if you are using double sided magic cards you'll need to use checklist cards for them. Other than that they're great sleeves for double sleeving EDH decks.
June 18, 2018 9:55 a.m.
Rzepkanut I have checklist cards so that shouldn't be a problem, thanks.
June 18, 2018 10:40 a.m.
hardhitta71194 But the ultra pro eclipse probably has the small ultra pro logo in the bottom right corner, so i'm just going to buy some dragon shield sleeves, thanks though.
June 18, 2018 11:29 a.m.
Ultimate guard Standard sleeves are in my opinion the best for double sleeving. I really like to double sleeve my decks. With U.G. The shuffling sensation is better and the deck is easy to shuffle. Also the durability is good. Dragon shield matte, on the other hand, are very good because are more durable and thick, but they have a big problem: the corners grip the playmat ruining it and making tapping and untapping very unconfortable
June 18, 2018 1:13 p.m.
moongoblin I literally just got back from my local game store with a playmat and dragon shields sleeves for my commander, ouch.
June 18, 2018 4:54 p.m.
Also of note, Ultra Pro Eclipses do NOT have the hologram on them. Just so you know.
June 18, 2018 6:28 p.m.
I’ve never had a problem with matte Shield’s corners gripping the playmat before. Perhaps that’s just because my tapping and untapping methods include lifting or partially lifting the card up, not just rotating it on the playmat.