What's up with Bob?
Economics forum
Posted on July 2, 2015, 4:52 p.m. by pleasiodmakerblooloo
So recently I noticed that Dark Confidant has slipped from his near 80$ price to around 50$. It's not like his abilities changes, so what's up with this drop in price?
Bob was really unpopular during Treasure Cruise Modern because of the large amount of play Electrolyze and Forked Bolt saw. Now he's lost favor because of Tasigur, the Golden Fang, and other meta-changes.
July 2, 2015 5:41 p.m.
Serendipitous_Hummingbird says... #5
you all keep putting bob's decline down to delve cards.
I'm no pro, but I think the main culprit is Eidolon of the Great Revel. It made burn a tier 1 deck. People don't fetch out untapped shocks like they used to. The old school of thought that the only point of life that matters is your last is no longer true. A modern meta filled with burn means taking 2 a turn isn't worth the risk. Even for the extra cards. Jund needs it, because that's how jund works, but other than that no one else can afford the massive life loss.
July 2, 2015 6:17 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #6
Eidolon did not make burn tier 1. Burn has always been a tier 1 Modern deck.
July 2, 2015 7:28 p.m.
Serendipitous_Hummingbird says... #7
according to mtgtop8 burn has more than doubled its percent of the metagame since eidolon was printed. In 2013 burn made up 3% of the modern meta, approximately the same as hatebears, bogles, fish, scapeshift, and UR storm. All of those are T2 to T1.5.
In 2014 (eidolon was released in feb 2014) burn made up 6% of the meta, behind only affinity for aggro, and tied with tron (tron being the most popular control deck).
If you think burn's prevalence is due to TC which greatly pushed R and UR strategies you have a fair point. TC screwed up the entire meta. So let's go to the last two months. Burn made up 7% of the meta (6% of live tournaments).
It is no coincidence that burn jumps to T1 with the release of eidolon.
July 2, 2015 7:43 p.m.
mathimus55 says... #8
The biggest impact on his price plain and simple is he just got reprinted. Him being less popular had played a factor too, but that will probably be bigger towards how he rebounds in price than that his price floor. Jund is picking back up in popularity but most of those players already had their set.
Also like what was mentioned before, banana boy has stole some thunder. The meta has shifted and he's not an auto-4 of like he was before.
July 2, 2015 7:44 p.m.
Serendipitous_Hummingbird says... #9
good point about Jund. Jund players were already playing jund. Generally $2k decks are not a good entry point for people new to modern
July 2, 2015 7:45 p.m.
mathimus55 says... #10
Yea, bob going down in price is pretty much the case and point of how modern is a format of staples: once you have a set of your staple cards like your lands, bob, delver, bolt, snappy etc you can go between decks fairly easily. And the staples will only go up over time. People already have them so the reprinting hurt him way more than the other mm15 reprints
July 2, 2015 9:05 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #11
Burn increased metagame-wise due to new players more than anything... It was Burn or Delver. I remember when Affinity was a budget deck...
July 2, 2015 10:39 p.m.
Birthing Pod and Deathrite Shaman got banned is why Burn surged in popularity. Deck was really "meh" and even shitty when those cards were legal.
Goblin Guide would get in for two damage on turn one, then the Pod player dropped a Wall of Roots, followed by a Kitchen Finks, sac the Kitchen Finks, go find Restoration Angel, rinse and repeat. It's turn three and the Pod player is still over 20 life lol...
Treasure Cruise just helped the deck keep up with Birthing Pod because they could try to build up their mana base and try to fire off three or more Lightning Bolts in a turn.
EmblemMan says... #2
Well he was reprinted and although jund is a pretty good deck right now he isnt the star of the deck or anything his price is very justified between the printing and jund not being the best deck or him not being the best card.
July 2, 2015 4:54 p.m.