Surgical Extraction arises.

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Posted on Jan. 11, 2017, 3:37 a.m. by WizardOfTheNorthernCoast

So... What's up with this card? It's been like 5 euros for months and seems to skyrocket since the bans.

Did people finally realize it's great? Is it supposed to replace Probe for its 'gimme the info' part? Or is it related to some metagame change I'm not aware of?

Thanks for your insight :)

EpicFreddi says... #2

I think its for the "gimme the info for free with upside" part. Worst case is you can exile some fetchlands.

January 11, 2017 4:12 a.m.

CChaos says... #3

January 11, 2017 6:36 a.m.

GeminiSpartanX says... #4

The price on this card spiked well before the banning announcement, so I'm not sure that the bannings are the reason for the price spike. It is heavily used in legacy Sideboards and has been slowly included in Modern SBs to combat dredge and other gy decks. I personally don't think it is worth the inflated price, but people will follow the trend I guess.

January 11, 2017 6:39 a.m.

EmblemMan says... #5

Actually it was not inflated before bans because I picked some up and watched the prices about 4-5 days before the bannings so this is definitely because of them but I think it is a lot of hype. Surgical really doesnt do the same thing as gitaxian probe nor will it be a suitable replacement for it. I think its a lot of speculation and itll drop soon.

January 11, 2017 6:57 a.m.

GeminiSpartanX says... #6

The ban announcement happened 2 days ago on Monday, and surgicals spiked this past weekend, before the ban announcement. Unless there is some sort of insider trading going on, the spike has little to do with the ban announcement.

January 11, 2017 7:18 a.m.

EmblemMan says... #7

Then that is a really suspicious spike there is no reason for it to spike outside of the banning. Its been played more than it has in the past but it has also been played for the past few months consistently at that same rate so it would not go up due to just "being a good sideboard card" at least not doubling the price. So yes I do suspect some sort of suspicious buyout that could or could not be related to the bannings. And if it is not related to them then it was probably a random buyout

January 11, 2017 7:44 a.m.

This is what got my attention in the first place : it doesn't seem to be more played than before but the price it three times higher. There must be something there, right?

Indeed, if you go check Magic Card Market you can see the price REALLY SPIKED on Monday. It was oscillating around 7-8 euros but really exploded on Monday.

I agree too I wouldn't pay more than its former price because it's not, to me, stronger as it was before.

January 11, 2017 7:59 a.m.

mathimus55 says... #9

At GP Louisville this past weekend some vendors were paying $10-12 buylist on these. Lots of people were needing them for sideboard tech and the amount of play they have gotten has risen lately. Some cards just need a little extra time to go back up in price, and Surgical Extraction is REALLY good at hitting problem cards. The fact that it can go in any deck helps it's cause too.

January 11, 2017 10:50 a.m.

Char-You says... #10

Basically every deck in modern was at least considering these for sideboard tech against dredge pre-ban. The ban had literal nothing to do with the price spike. Now I suppose that everyone who picked them up is considering using them as a pseudo probe, but they were initially bought because it's actually just the best piece of grave-hate in the modern format.

January 11, 2017 11:20 a.m.

Kiortio says... #11

I'm very glad I bought all of mine 2 days before they spiked. $7 Surgicals are better than $15 surgicals.

January 11, 2017 11:28 a.m.

HSF117 says... #12

I'm really glad that I traded one of my Surgical Extractions pre-price spike and pre-ban in a trade for an Emrakul, the Promised End. Not a good economic play there.

January 11, 2017 11:43 a.m.

APPLE01DOJ says... #13

Did all prints spike?

January 11, 2017 4:27 p.m.

frogkill45 says... #14

i remember when Ancestral Vision was unbanned along with Sword of the Meek. look at the price history showed 2 months prior to that the price spike up to 20$ from 12$ and 8$ from 3$ where they were at their lowest for years. there is definitely leaks on bans.

January 11, 2017 4:29 p.m.

MenacingBunny says... #15

This card spiked after Fatal Push was spoiled as it can completely dominate some decks in modern.

January 11, 2017 5:49 p.m.

Lol on a different topic I recently traded 2 Monastery Swiftspear and 3 Mantis Rider to some guy who thought they'd rise thanks to Frontier.

I got a Mystical Tutor and a Saheeli Rai in exchange... :)

January 12, 2017 6:43 a.m.

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