Which of these 3 beaters would would you use in modern?

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Posted on Aug. 30, 2014, 8:39 p.m. by benelas16

I'm trying to build a Rakdos(B/R) modern deck. I'm looking towards my 3 drops and I can't decide on which I should use Shambling Remains Ashenmoor Gouger , or Hell's Thunder ?

VampireArmy says... #2

Hells thunder has my vote. It flies and is repeatable

August 30, 2014 8:42 p.m.

GoofyFoot says... #3

I don't know what your deck is or is trying to do, but wouldn't other 3 drops like Vampire Nighthawk or Ball Lightning do the job better?

August 30, 2014 8:55 p.m.

xlaleclx says... #4

Oh god, none of those please.

August 30, 2014 9:07 p.m.

benelas16 says... #5

xlaleclx, then what should I use? I actually agree with you, goofyfoot

August 30, 2014 9:11 p.m.

xlaleclx says... #6

There's probably not any BR 3 drops you should be playing with in modern other than Liliana of the veil. It would help if we had a decklist though

August 30, 2014 9:18 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #7

It would help if we saw the deck my guy. Can't help you until we really know what you're trying to do

August 30, 2014 9:19 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #8

Also at xlaleclx what a ignorant statement. Let's see. Boros Reckoner Fulminator Mage Geralf's Messenger just to name three off the top of my head. Nighthawk is pretty legit, hells thunder is seeing some play in suicide rbw. All in all, from the things you say on here you give me serious bad vibes.

August 30, 2014 9:27 p.m.

xlaleclx says... #9

None of those are good cards in modern in just any deck, Fulminator mage is a good sideboard card against some decks but not a card you want in your mainboard in any random deck where its on colour, it's just going to be a stone rain a lot of the time. The other cards you listed are just way too slow and not impactful enough.

August 30, 2014 9:33 p.m.

xlaleclx says... #10

Also how is that an ignorant statement? Saying that bad cards are bad in hope that people don't play them? If anything it's ignorant to encourage people to play cards like Ashenmoor Gouger in modern

August 30, 2014 9:34 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #11

You can literally win a game with reckoner (see Skred ) the mage is good tech in a meta full of non basic lands, the messenger is used in most devo black. Are these tier decks? No. Then again either is a rakdos build. Sometimes you gotta think outside the top 8

August 30, 2014 9:36 p.m.

Krayhaft says... #12

  1. Splash green.

  2. Throw in Tarmogoyf .

  3. Profit.

......

OT: It really depends on what the style of deck is that you are trying to build. A R/B RDW-style deck will want to run different cards than a R/B midrange-style deck.

For the former, I'd suggest something like Hell's Thunder . For the latter, attrition-y cards like Boros Reckoner , Phyrexian Obliterator , and Geralf's Messenger .

August 30, 2014 9:39 p.m.

benelas16 says... #13

THE DECK Bleed/burn Im trying to do a budget for modern right now.

August 30, 2014 9:45 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #14

Yoooo i feel it. You need Gatekeeper of Malakir you could also run Demigod of Revenge over the dross

August 30, 2014 9:49 p.m.

benelas16 says... #15

Demigod is a sweet card, but dross is stricly for that opening hand to push them past the initial mark. I know it's kind of Janky, but even revealing one followed by a bump or a one drop creature sets me far ahead of the game. faithless loots put drosses in the yard to be fodder for moltentail, plus it nets me card. The ultimate combo is by random probability I draw soul spikes (2) and four drosses and win the game opening hand

August 30, 2014 9:55 p.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #16

Never run Geralf's Messenger in modern. WAY too slow.

August 30, 2014 9:57 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #17

It's possible thing for sure but how probable? Would you rather win like that a small percentage of the time or up the amount of times you have a chance of winning overall?

August 30, 2014 9:58 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #18

Femme_Fatale it works in mbd modern. They don't care how slow it is.

August 30, 2014 9:59 p.m.

benelas16 says... #19

The latter of course. I look at them as fodder for masticore who i'm sick of letting collect dust in my binder . ITS SOO GOOD!

August 30, 2014 9:59 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #20

That's a tricky one...

August 30, 2014 10:06 p.m.

benelas16 says... #21

I used to run unearth aggro in standard when alara block was around. so I said hey yknow lets try something

August 30, 2014 10:17 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #22

Yeah i think if that's what you're doing then run way more unearth and flashback stuff with him

August 30, 2014 10:22 p.m.

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