infinate sacking

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Posted on July 14, 2017, 2:35 a.m. by airbournevirus

sack test V3this is latest version of my W?B alyli sac deck.

DoctorMckay says... #2

Imo Sinkhole can be cut and Demonic Tutor can be replaced.

About Sinkhole: You can argue that a Glacial Chasm or a Gaea's Cradle are good targets but, I think adding some powerful draw or recursivity engines might be more useful. Yawgmoth's Will/Magus of the Wheel, for example. (ALL HAIL YAWGMOTH) Let the opponents do what they want but you will do your stuff faster than theirs.

About Diabolic Tutor: Beseech the Queen is better. In an average game you won't activate Diabolic Tutor until turn 3 or 4. By then you have about 3-4 lands in play. Also, Beseech the Queen can be cast for the same cost of Diabolic Tutor, for or for white mana only. Flexibility is always a good thing. Also, you could run Grim Tutor, I mean, your are playing Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim.

I've just become aware of it, you are running Karmic Guide and Ashnod's Altar but not Reveillark?! I mean, those 3 create an infinite combo of mana. With Altar of Dementia instead of Ashnod's Altar you can mill everyone to 0. Karmic Guide and Reveillark enable pretty nasty combos and are a wincon, pls, run both.

Viscera Seer is a good pick too. It works really well with the combo.

PD: Question, what enchantment/artifact hate or spot removals are you running?

PD2: Have you considered running razaketh, the foulblooded ?

July 14, 2017 3:45 a.m.

DoctorMckay says... #3

Ok, I'm stupid, not Magus of the Wheel. I meant to say Magus of the Will. Thanks brain, you are the best.

Next time I'll look at the keyboard while I'm writing.

July 14, 2017 3:47 a.m.

airbournevirus says... #4

cut sinkhole, the inefficient tutors (to be replaced with cards like vampiric and entomb, grim tutor is brutal, but out of my price range.added reveillarkadded Viscera Seerrazaketh ... added.

magus of wheel/yagmoth's will- my meta is very removal heavy. I play either card and they'll board wipe/mil me to a loss while under the exile effect.

July 14, 2017 4:49 p.m.

airbournevirus says... #5

as for removal-karmic justice mainly. i'll need to add more it seems.

July 14, 2017 11:08 p.m.

DoctorMckay says... #6

I've got some new ideas, tell me what you think about them:

1- Nasty AF combo:

Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond = GG

2- Cards that work very well with Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim

Vizkopa Guildmage

Kambal, Consul of Allocation

Debt to the Deathless

Tree of Perdition

3- Removal and boardwipes:

Merciless Eviction

Return to Dust

Utter End

Vindicate

Austere Command

4- Maybe it could help you go off faster with some combos

Enlightened Tutor

July 17, 2017 3:29 a.m.

DoctorMckay says... #7

Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are always decent picks, but, in my experience, it is better to use your removal slots for more flexible choices, hence I tell you to run cards like Utter End and Vindicate.

Also, Vindicate works as a Sinkhole if you really need it to.

July 17, 2017 3:33 a.m.

airbournevirus says... #8

thanks for the in depth suggestions.been doing some major changes to deck- added Kambal, Exquisite Blood, utter end and vindicate. liking the focus on sanguine bond and lifegain.

and agree- this deck is rarely hurting for mana between cabal coffers and urbog w/ lilliana so can use higher CC removal that are more flexible.

Q: solemnity is likely gonna get ban hammer pretty quick. considering it made my entire re-animator engine obsolete.

July 17, 2017 3:35 p.m.

airbournevirus says... #9

Vizkopa Guildmage - seems strong, but need to see how deck reacts to removal and how much redundancy i need.

tree of perdition- very strong. will sideboard and see how it runs.death to deathless: with my engine running makes more sense to stick with sacrifice effects. but- well worth a sideboard.

July 17, 2017 3:39 p.m.

DoctorMckay says... #10

"thanks for the in depth suggestions"

I really like toughness related generals, specially Doran, the Siege Tower and Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim. I'm just helping a fellow player ;)

As my last sugestion, if I were you, I would watch the Command Zone's episode on Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK8u53V0qQw (Tappedout does not let me insert a URL, nice...)

PD: Also, I forgot to add my favourite boardwipe to the previous message,Hallowed Burial. Unless a creature has "Protection against white" this card bypasses every other abilities.

July 18, 2017 3:33 a.m.

hallowed burial seems akin to terminus without needing to be topped for miracle. interesting card :)

July 19, 2017 2:23 a.m.

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