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Posted on Jan. 27, 2015, 6:03 p.m. by ZombieRules2
Abzan Mentors Playtest
Standard*
SCORE: 1 | 42 COMMENTS | 709 VIEWSZombieRules2 says... #4
What 5-7 creatures do you recommend. I was thinking
Dromaka, A. falconer, Disowned Ancestor, Siege Rhino, hood hydra, athreos, a. Corps
January 29, 2015 8:21 p.m.
Well what Type of deck Is it? In the description I noticed You saying something about aggro, and aggro abzan usually doesnt call for any of those creatures except siege rhino. Rub cards Like 4 Fleecemane Lion / 3/4 Rakshasa Deathdealer / 3/4 Anafenza, the Foremost / 2/3 Wingmate Roc / 4 Courser of Kruphix / 4 Sylvan Caryatid / 3 Herald of Torment / 4 Warden of the First Tree... All of them arent nessecary but id suggest running fleecemane, wingmate, courser, caryatid, probably warden and for sure 4 siege rhino. Some other cards seen, (possibly less often) could be Hornet Queen / Brimaz, King of Oreskos / Mistcutter Hydra (sideboard) / and Polukranos, World Eater /. So try to build your creature base off of those creatures and it will be much better.
January 29, 2015 9:45 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #7
Since this is turning into Aggro. Should I remove elspeth?
January 30, 2015 6:26 p.m.
I would see how she Does before removing her. But if she isnt being able to be played then yes
January 30, 2015 7:49 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #9
I played the new deck a few times and sometimes I find ways to win but she makes it difficult sometimes. 1 way of winning with elspeth: tokens. 1 way of losin w elspeth: big creatures(mid game). I think I will remove her
January 30, 2015 9:28 p.m.
Totally your call but I feel you should consider what I commented on the deck
January 30, 2015 9:47 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #11
I saw it and I'm trying to find a way to add some of them
January 30, 2015 9:50 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #13
Should I:- Abzan Ascendancy: Basically Abzan Ascendancy is the combination of Ajani and Athreos but a little weaker
- Murderous Cut: Do I REALLY REALLY NEED it
-Elspeth: Good for control, not so good for most Aggro
Change lands to temples and basic (23)
2x Courser of K.
January 30, 2015 10:51 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #14
Should I:
- Remove Abzan Ascend., M. cut, Elspeth
- Add Couser(2), Change Land to Temples and Basic (23)
January 30, 2015 10:53 p.m.
No, 4 courser. And maybe 19 Lands. i probably wouldnt run abzan ascendency before spear of heliod, but thats your choice. Elspeth could easily be sideboarded. And murderous cut Is not a nessesity. Heroes downfall and despise/thoughtseize are recommended. Banishing light Is too. lts all in.how you run them
Feel free to ask anything else
January 30, 2015 10:56 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #16
This is just for me to researchSpear of HeliodHero's DownfallThoughtseizeBanishing Light
January 30, 2015 11:16 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #18
So4couser
Land:- 4 Ss Citadel- 5 forest, plains , swamp (each)
- 1spear
2 banishing light (can it be replaced by extension field? Most of the cards I have are KTK)
Remove 1lion
January 30, 2015 11:24 p.m.
No keep all four lion, 2 spear, 4 forest, 3 plains, 3 swamp. 2 Temple of Malady / 2 Temple of Plenty/ 1 Temple of Silence . And when you make a decklist thats the cards You are aiming to get. So you can use suspension field Untill you get banishing light . So until you can get temples you can just use Basic land. Also look into Windswept Heath sometime
January 30, 2015 11:48 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #21
If I don't have enough money can't I just get evolving winds also I can't purchase the temples. And should I add Sunbond
January 31, 2015 5:12 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #22
Can't buy king of oreskos. Maybe I'll remove the cats. Keep elspeth. Add Sunbound and spears and coursers and lions
January 31, 2015 5:22 p.m.
I wouldnt suggest sunbond. Like I think I mentioned in your deck comments, I would remove anything with the outlast ability, you might want to remove athreos, remove dromaka, remove garuk, merderous cut, kin tree invication, ascendency, death frenzy, rakahasa secret, and incremental growth
January 31, 2015 6:08 p.m.
And the temples can be tempraraly replaced with the duel color gain life lands as for evolving wilds Is up to you
January 31, 2015 7:06 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #26
Why don't u recommend Sunbond, Garruk, and Athroes. Garruk and Athroes I sorta feel like removin them but ... How about Sunbond? Why not Sunbond(he could give a boost to my creatures using the help of whip of Erebus, spear of Helios, and ajani.
January 31, 2015 8:13 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #27
Oh can u explain I little of why I should remove Garruk
January 31, 2015 8:14 p.m.
Garuk Is just too high of a mana cost. Hes not really run in any Standard deck lists. Sunbond Is ok but the likliness of having whip, sunbond, and a realiable creature for sunbond Is unlikely. now about whip of erebos. Id only run that if you run creatures that go with it Hornet Queen / siege rhino, anything with enter the battlefield effects. And for athreos, there Is just better things that could be used and 2 life usually isnt a huge deal
January 31, 2015 8:48 p.m.
Godsend Is pretty nice to attach to maybe siege rhino Or warden of the first tree (which you should probably run 4 of) but youll have to experiment with that
January 31, 2015 10:18 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #31
I added the cards into my deck. (Just added KinTreeWarden for a 1 drop, besides depsie)
February 1, 2015 8:51 p.m.
ZombieRules2 says... #33
Should I remove Garruk completly or should I sb him
ATREYUty says... #2
Your deck currently is very inconsistant. Youre running 1/2 of many different cards. What I would do is rule it down to maybe 5-7 different creatures and run 4 of the ones you would really Like to pull every game, 3 on cards that you dont need to draw as much but still would Like maybe 1 a game, and 2 for legendary creatures Or high cost creatures. i would do the Same with the rest of the deck. As for the land, build the amount of mana to conform to the deck. Say you run mostly 1-3 drops that are mostly green, then equal black and white. Youd run about 20 land and maybe 10 green producing, 5 black 5 white. Sorry if you knew any of this, just trying to help out
January 27, 2015 8:18 p.m.