Best Mono-G CMDR for "Impurity" Matters? (& other notes.)

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Posted on July 1, 2019, 9:06 a.m. by BMHKain

Now, I'm serious about this. People believe the idea of a Mono- CMDR deck running Artifice, Enchantments, even Fliers are straight up impossible. Don't worry, guys. This deck will include a more Realistic Philosophy on (Such as the Amber of Mox Amber , the Peat of Nurturing Peatland , even Birds of Paradise as a part of it.). I just need to find a good Mono- Legendary creature aside from Lifecrafters to do the job.

(I'll work on the opinions of such things on the respective Deck.)

(I'm currently working on adding actually relevant Flashback cards in my "Exile Matters" deck, & I'm even contemplating making a Glossary of cards that say "From Outside the Game" (W/O Silver Border crap in case you do care.)

Update: Since I was told that nothing in existing MTG Storyline canon before the Paruns who signed the Original Guildpact: I decided to call my cEDH Boros Community Deck In the Making: "Razia's Parhelion △ Legion of the Damned" (△ = 3, Delta, or as Chadwarden, who gave the PS3 a bad name even as the PS5 has features to back the case; Triple.)

Two last things: How does Competitive Meter Feedback work? Just wondering... &, I'm thinking of making a Mono- Burn/Red Deck Wins deck; but stuff like The Wanderer 's Static Ability prevents all opposing Noncreature Damage, Hexproof has gotten more popular than ever (Where's our Shroud?), & are there Burn stuff that bypasses Targeting as a whole? Burn Cards w/ ways to bypass immunity to Instants & Sorceries, & cards that prevent another from damage as a whole? I'd really like to incorperate them to the deck; but has there been better Burn Commanders in since Neheb, the Eternal ? I'm interested to know...

Alright all that set in stone, Thoughts?

SP3CTR3_chelts says... #2

I like Omnath, Locus of Mana for mono green edh. Although he does require a complete build around.

Cards like Nurturing Peatland unfortunately cannot be ran in mono green edh decks. EDH decks can only have cards wich colour identity fits within the commander, a colour identity of a card is defined by any mana symbols that appear on the card (normally mana cost and activated abilities), the colour identity marker on flip cards ( Garruk Relentless  Flip is green black) and basic land types.

When a card is exiled it will be face up as a card if morphed/manifested ect and will be non transformed if it was already transformed. The main way i think there is of abusing this is by getting an expensive creature manifested exile and return it and it comes back face up.

Lore wise the Paruns are the 10 original founders of the guilds and therefore the beings that signed the original guild-pact. This was a long time ago so some died and some are no longer the guild leaders.

Azorious: Azor (Sphinx) Rackdos: Rackdos (Demon) Simic: Simic (Vedelkan) Selesnya: Mat'Selesnya (3 Dryads) Boros: Raizer (Angel) Golgari: Svogthir (Lich Previously elf) Dimir: Szadek (Vampire) Grul: Cisarzim (Cyclops) Orzhove: Obzedat (council of ghosts)

The competitive Meter I believe gives individual cards a competitive ranking and calculates the meter based on those cards. So good for indication but not a complete guide. It might be possible to make a 100% competitive deck which was pure jank, but generally cards are classed as competitive because they are good.

... I have no idea about anything Beyblade

July 2, 2019 8:29 a.m.

BMHKain says... #3

@SP3CTR3_chelts: Hmm... That could be a good use of a Filler for now. Now for why I threw those things in there: Mox Amber is based upon real-life amber; Fossilized Tree Resin; some even include some kind of prehistoric creature w/ it's form still intact; though I completely understand why WotC wanted to do it this way; it is well cherished by those who collect jewelry. Also, Yes, I understand Nurturing Peatland is a Land, but the philosophy behind it just might work still: Peat is decayed plant matter; dead, but still friendly nevertheless. Regardless, it can even be used in a process that can take several thousand years or more to evolve to a stone-like mass (Given no fire occurs during that time.) after all this time. Both of these kinds of process' involves an idea of Evolution; a concept of PROGRESS; isn't the only one w/ that luxury. As for fliers, Birds of Paradise has actual Bird Wings, & can produce mana In a pinch. Also, Destructor Dragon hates anyone w/ even an Arrowhead. You think you can kill a dragon w/ this kind of weapon? All it's going to do is get pissed off, & kill you as the "Reach" User instead. Ironic, since this Dragon serves Dragonlord Atarka ; which is even MORE ironic as Temur in the Current Timeline has basically the exact same Watermark Base; but the most ironic part of all is that Omnath, Locus of the Roil IS now! I don't think I can put a number on that any further! DX

Moving on: How the heck can a card even exist for Manifest when Inverter of Truth just straight out exiles your library FACE-DOWN, & replaces it w/ a Graveyard this deck doesn't truly need (It is Exile Zone Dependent.). But, you might be on to something though; but how the heck can I even force a whole Exile Zone that's face-down, to Face up? I'm actually interested about these kinds of notions...

I guess what you're saying is that in recorded MTG Multiverse history, even when there was only nature & no city at all, The Ten Paruns of the Original Guildpact was the only root of such history? Honestly, I wonder if there are 10 before the Original Guildpact was even a thought yet. In case there is no such idea, Razia will be a part of the cEDH Boros Community Deck's name.

I was, uh, referring to the Feedback part; I, mean, my "Obsessive Moaning" brought this to fruition. Any idea on that?

Finally, don't worry, you're not missing out on anything at all now; the current saga ruined itself w/ a feature Beys had in place of a sleepout; which at least gave the benefit of the doubt; not so when your bey just separates into the very parts the bey was built upon in the first place. I miss the benefit of the doubt; & a protagonist w/ Left Spin; not a villain w/ Left Spin. It doesn't matter anyway; the show sucks now, & even TAKARA TOMY needs to have a letter written to them about how such a new feature ruined the franchise for life.

I'll shut it about Beyblade though. I think I said enough anyway...

July 2, 2019 11:41 a.m.

SP3CTR3_chelts says... #4

yeah i understand that thaumatically those cards could have place in a green natural deck but i suppose that is why they are green and something else.

TBH i prefer the originally omnath compared to his two new versions as he can be ridiculous and if you run lots of flash effects whenever he dies you can just bring him back in to conserve your mana pool.

and as regards to the guilds, before the signing the original guildpact most of ravnica was in chaos and war. Azor convened a meeting between the 10 most prevalent factions to fix the problems of ravnica. These 10 factions became the guilds so before the guilds were created the guild leaders where head of these faction. This does mean there might have been previous faction leaders however nothing is mentioned of them. There also would have been other factions around at the time.

July 3, 2019 4:24 a.m.

BMHKain says... #5

@SP3CTR3_chelts: I guess I could go & mention a whole Alternate Philosophy in my honest opinion/perspective, but, yeah. That's what it will only be: My Opinions.

Huh. So, other groups did exist, but most likely perished during an age of chaos; leaving only 10 2 color Guilds? Huh. I suppose since no proof of Ravnica's Most Distant Past existed; I guess for the cEDH Boros Community Deck, I should do Razia after all? She was the Boros Legion's Parun you know.

As for Inverter of Truth , & Manifest effects, which cards would you think would go well w/ the Manifest/Morph/Megamorph subtheme alongside aforementioned Eldrazi?

Do you know anyone that may have a decent answer about the feedback part of the Competitive Gauge? I'd like tosubmit my opinion on what could've been better...

Finally, I guess I could use Omnath, Locus of Mana for now; just don't expect that many elves though...

July 3, 2019 1:32 p.m.

BMHKain says... #6



Chose Omnath as my CMDR in an Anti-Meta Mono Color Deck. Even the description states 4 individuals (Me, & 3 of my Fan-Made Post-Mending Era Walkers.). Also, since you stated that nothing is known about what happened at a time of Chaos before Pre-Guildpact Beta Era Ravnica. Really makes me wish all 10 Guilds can coexist with another; but because of color difference, this is never possible even Post-WAR. So, yeah, I have a name for my cEDH Boros Community Deck after all this: "Razia's Parhelion II △ Legion of the Damned." Oh, & as I said earlier, Suns_Champion is also allowed to join despite not knowing cEDH that well; but is a very great Guru on this subject matter. So close enough.

I still haven't found one resourceful enough about the feedback part of the Competitive Gauge. Any ideas? Also, how does Inverter of Truth work w/ Manifesting, Morphing, & Megamorphing, when the first former exiles a whole library face down? That is out of reach for Manifests! Is it truly worth adding after all this?

Finally, one last plan: Outside my Kykar, Wind's Fury Vorthos Deck, I've one other thing to do: A literal Mono- Burn/Red Deck Wins deck where scorching is the name of the game; & when stuff like The Wanderer (SPOILER: Sarkhan Vol knows her back at one time.) w/ her ability to prevent noncreature damage to them, Stuff giving you (As an opponent), & even enemy permanents Hexproof; potentially retiring Shroud as a Keyword forever. I just need ideas to bypass Target Protection, & even ways to bypass ol' Wanderer-dono's noncreature damage immunity. I'll start development as I finish both my Exiles Matter Deck, & Mono- Deck. Though I'd like it if I can find a use for Inverter of Truth ; Maybe MTGGoldfish had something like that; it was an Against the Odds Deck. Ah well, better than Tibalt #1 as everyone would say...

Thanks for the update reading; I hope I didn't tick you off or something...

UPDATE: Now the situation escalades: I found some stuff for Inverter of Truth ; but does even one card exist to negate only ETB Triggers I have that can be negated? I got Inverter of Truth , Eater of Days , Leveler , Hunted Horror , & Dust Elemental ? Even if one of this even exists, AT ALL, I'd be more than happy to try & get a copy; you know, selective ETB Trigger Negation? Ah whatever, I can't even find something close to that... DX

July 5, 2019 9:41 a.m.

Suns_Champion says... #7

Hmmmm hello!

Not sure I am a guru of anything other than Boros or perhaps Mono Red, so I’m not sure how I can help here. Green is my least favorite color to mess with haha.

I am also not fully in tune with the lore or Ravnica, so I’m little help there too.

Let me know if I can be of help in other ways.

July 5, 2019 11:39 a.m.

BMHKain says... #8

@Suns_Champion Fair enough. It was cEDH Based; & even if you're good at Boros about this; it's your decision to join or not anyway. As for , I'd like a word w/ somebody else entirely... Thanks for dropping by though! :D

@SP3CTR3_chelts: About Omnath #1...

Are you sure this is the right fit for a Mono- Commander in this case? I dunno any better ideas for a Mono- Commander that is friendly in the Air, benefits from even Artifacts, eic. Is there really no such thing? I don't want to resort to the generic Elfball strategy (Truth be Told; I hate Elves unless something about them has artifice on them (One of my OC Walkers is Mono-, & has a mechanical Arm beyond even Daretti 's reach during his life. I mean, Such an elven maiden had her arm blown off; not from an explosion, but from some explosive power can do; I mean, this Elven Maiden was (Still is) interested in studying actual science, & not the usual Training as a Druid (Or studying Botany even.). But how she's still only? Well, just imagine if you were an elf, & thought things can still improve indefinitely, but no other Elf (Or anyone w/ in their Color identity.) agrees, & exiles you from beyond existence?

Anyway, I don't think Omnath, Locus of Mana is pulling its weight here as a Commander. Any other suggestions?

July 5, 2019 1:32 p.m.

BMHKain says... #9


I kind of still wonder if Omnath, Locus of Mana was a Good Choice for Mono- in ways Mono- isn't comfortable in; I said this already, but: Flying Creatures, Artifice, Enchantments, Color Choice Options, etc. Is there any alternatives here? Or is Omnath #1 in this kind of Deck? I can't just center a CMDR of this design as the deck base; not even close to what I wanted. I wonder if there are any ideas left. Do you know even one other Mono- CMDR quite fine in such a deck w/ the qualities mentioned above? The Locus of Mana/Rage/Roil doesn't seem keen on this either; IMO. XP

July 7, 2019 2:49 p.m.

Sorry for the late response. as for the title "Razia's Parhelion II" would be nice but Razia got killed by Szadek when he was enslaved by Augustin IV and obtained access to the original parhelion and slaughtered A LOT of angels like most of them! So Razia never saw Parhelion II (which obviously was not built till after the destruction of the first one).

As for Inverter of truth it says face down just so nobody can look at them if they were returned to the battlefield some way they would be returned face up.

As for the burn question cards like Insult / Injury and Leyline of Punishment are probably enough to get round that fringe tactic and by running the lands Detection Tower Arcane Lighthouse (and maybe but not quite so useful as it uses a slot Glaring Spotlight might be enough to at lest stop people being reliant on them. (with the added bonus you can team up with another player to remove a key piece if you remove its hexproof and they kill it).

I do think omnath is a good fit for that deck i would consider running some flash enablers so if omnath dies you can use your stockpile of green mana to bring him back immediately though!

July 8, 2019 8:02 a.m.

BMHKain says... #11

@SP3CTR3_chelts: Ironically, that was the Working Title. Which leaves us to Two possible choices left; We got Aurelia, the Warleader , or even Feather . Ironic, considering Feather herself was exiled by Aurelia, only to be freed by a certain Krenko . I dunno how she survived that, But Razia was part of the Working Title; As she was a Parun; & the oldest Boros Legion Ravnican on Record. I also had Pierakor az Vinrenn D'rav (Yes, that's her true name.) an another option, As Aurelia is one of Feather's Creations; ultimately overthrowing her, & imprisoning Feather from there. Aurelia would've been good, but ol' Pierakor az Vinrenn D'rav created her, & even Agrus Kos was Feather's partner, & Agrus was murdered. Since Aurelia is an Overthrowing Byproduct by Feather, I'd hope such a name like: "Pierakor az Vinrenn D'rav's Parhelion △ Legion of the Damned" But the name is too long for cEDH Boros Community Deck Standards; much less any Deck Name Standard anyway. DX But, yeah. Only 2 Paruns are still standing; Rakdos , & Azor I ; actually, there are 3. But Niv-Mizzet is the one true Living Guildpact.

However, in the case of a cEDH Boros Community Deck; I'd have to go for Feather on this one; She created Aurelia; & she forced her out of the Guild for awhile...

For Inverter of Truth : I disregarded the whole idea after all that. Given how much I have, the only problem w/ running a The First Sliv deck in this case is: What do you think would be worth cutting for actual lands? I'm estimating on 36 for now; but what to cut is a question of high difficulty in itself. Also, I actually didn't want this as cEDH Material. Just an experiment to see if it works; Commander/EDH doesn't allow Sideboards, so stuff that can be Obtained from outside the game are useless. On the Topic of Commander; any updates on the Banlist?; What was cut that I actually had wool in my eyes for?

Huh. Never would've thought of those (The lands, I mean. Same for Glaring Spotlight .); how's Rampaging Ferocidon ? I also wish Red had better anti-lifegain against opponents; Tibalt, Rakish Instigator doesn't seem enough on this... & what's more ironic? I barely have a good way at all to do Politics: the Game; & if anyone want to enlist my help, why is it that in today's societies, the hardest word in the English Dictionary in everyday speak is just a coldhearted "NO."

"This is a Competition. I mean, this isn't about other people, it's about YOU! What the F--- is wrong with you?!" -Big Fazeek; The Tester Season II (One of the eliminated competitiors eliminated just for being thrown under the bus; even by his teammates after a Team Challenge He & the others won. A textbook example on how NOT to judge during an Elimination.)

Huh... Okay. I'll resume the Omnath crap. Though I dunno how far I can go w/o going below such ideas. But wait: Omnath, Locus of Mana allows you to keep your Mana Accumulated. Why can't Kruphix, God of Horizons do the same for ?

Well, thanks for the help though. I'm actually planning out a literal Color OC Planeswalker; though she's not the usual kind of character of Boros Personality though... So she would be more like the kinds of Boros Decks that have strategic ways; cEDH style instead of being a Chaotic, Vengeful being like Nahiri for instance. I'll leave it here now. Thanks. I'll see if these work...

July 8, 2019 12:48 p.m.

BMHKain says... #12


(Not really; though John Hurt as the War Doctor is a Badass.)

Wow, 3 days w/o a post here. Well, I've a lot to say here, so I just want to say: Maybe you could read the entire previous post, please? I just wonder about any thoughts of yours after this was left unattended...

July 11, 2019 10:26 a.m.

Hey sorry I am not on tapped out that often but thought i replied to the one on the 8th of june :S

I would go with Auralia, I always thought that feather was a not a typical boros leader and auralia is just boros incarnate!

Strictly Mat'Selesnya might still be alive resting inside the vitu-ghazi which was animated by nissa in war of the spark. Yes it/they were defeated by the god externals but it is not dead (only dormant).

Leyline of Punishment and Witch Hunt stop life gain, I also use Insult / Injury for finishing in my purphoros deck.

kruphix works like omnath but making it colourless is problematic. Omnath can re cast himself (assuming you have flash) and kruphix cant. he is also a win con because he gets big. in my eyes kruphix is a utility piece and omnath is a commander!

Ajani was once boros! but less organised I liked the idea of maybe a Gideon but in boros ... alas it will never be!

July 12, 2019 9:51 a.m.

BMHKain says... #14

@SP3CTR3_chelts: Interesting... "Aurelia's Parhelion △ Legion of the Damned". Not a bad idea; in spite of Her being created by Feather, retaliated against her, & became a Guildleader, & Razia is a Parun… I suppose I'll deal w/ that; though I dunno about the "of the Damned" part now...

Already knew about Leyline of Punishment , but I wonder how good Witch Hunt really is...

Definetely sucks, since I'm making CMDR Decks for both; including Kruphix. I'll leave the mass draw from here...

Yeah, Ajani Vengeant ; though he abandoned the Mana by the time he followed a now dead Elspeth Tirel to Theros; but if Elspeth was mentioned to be a part of Tamiyo 's Story Circle, is Elspeth REALLY ALIVE? If the Final Moments of FATE REFORGED told us nothing, I'd reference BlazBlue while I'm at it. So how did Elspeth Tirel Escape the Starfield of Nyx , & Planeswalk to Kamigawa to meet up w/ Tamiyo in the first place?

It's odd. Gideon Jura did side w/ the Boros Legion for awhile, & his background as Kytheon Iora  Flip came from an area of Theros (Gideon's Home Plane) centered on Red & Mana; & most of the cards' lore based upon this further demonstrates this point. Even Heartwarming Redemption of WAR further expands the story after Gideon's death as well. Which was Ironic as he did wield Blackblade Reforged ; which is Black mana incarnate of Weaponry.

I'll talk about a Boros OC Planeswalker another time. But she's definitely no War-Like individual; preferring to actually think than just react alone as an action.

July 12, 2019 12:27 p.m.

BMHKain says... #15


I don't get what I did wrong. Even going over 100 to later on get to said number of cards, The meter is literally cut short by a lot; even my Human Tribal Deck seems to still stand at 79% Competitive at most. Not that I'm complaining or whatnot, but even I dunno how resetting the SLUG works.

BTW: I'll revise the name later, as well as the Xantcha, Sleeper Agent Political Deck. For now, how to improve on at least Omnath #1's Meter Range... Can't fragging Believe I have to pay for the Following:

  1. Lion's Eye Diamond
  2. Gauntlet of Might
  3. Gaea's Cradle
  4. Some 4th expensive as crap card from an era I'm not.

Well, any suggestions to get to 80% at least? & no, the TappedOut staff are still working out the kinks of this problem w/ the meter. Can the rest of this site understand this? OLD answer: "Screw the Meter" MY answer, as well as it's your's if you have differing thoughts unlike previously: JUST FIX IT ALREADY.

But in all seriousness, I'd like your thoughts on how to get to at least 80% Competitive Range...

...As if I already have enough of them...

July 13, 2019 11:39 a.m.

BMHKain says... #16

Does BUMPING mean zilch? Might as well admit we DON'T live in a 3D ZA WARUDO!

If you wanted to know that much, I'm trying to cut to 100 cards; purposefully so I can get to a decent Percentage of Competitiveness (80% at least...); & yes, the meter means nothing to this entire community. Besides me.

What cards to cut? The theme of this deck is that can accept Artifice w/o needing to do crap like Lifecraft, or sensing AEther.

But how to exceed 80% by following these rules?

I wonder about this as I tend to my other crap...

July 14, 2019 10:21 a.m.

Witch hunt is a bit hit and miss but it can stop lifegain decks I run it in my purphoros deck but i am considering dropping it due to cmc. Ajani lost his red mana when he stopped using his rage and focused more on the well being of his allies. Elisabeth's status is something i do not know much about but i do know that death is certainly not the end on theros! The speculation of that she could be the wanderer i think could be true as the wanderer does know sarkhan (just as elspeth does). yes gideon did side with the boros leagion and did wield the black blade but it does not mean that he uses red or black mana. in both cases he did it his way and did not use red mana as part of the boros legion or black mana in wielding the black blade. I think the closest that he came to being red was in the final trial of amonkhet when he was turned mad with rage under Hazorette's influence.

The competitive meter is just how many cards to you use that tapped out considers to be competitive. I would not give it too much attention. However with the deffinition of CEDH that you are in a position to win or start controlling the board fully at turn 3/4 omnath will not be a CEDH deck.

I don't know quite what you are talking about but i would not run lions eye diomand or gauntlet of might in an omnath deck and i do prefer Queen Marchessa over Xantcha, Sleeper Agent for a politics deck.

Ill have a further look at your deck soon but don;t have the time now. but i would not hang on the competitive meters value!

July 15, 2019 8:07 a.m.

BMHKain says... #18


Wait. Sarkhan Vol knew Elspeth Tirel? This must be about SHARDS OF ALARA Era crap. These two, alongside an enraged Ajani, & Tezzeret when he was considered "Heroic", fought against Nicol Bolas; right? That's the only hint I have at the Sarkhan & Elspeth Relation. Sarkhan became evil, Elspeth was last seen in Theros when having an identity. Sarkhan is now less Chaotic Evil, now he no longer serves Bolas; & even reminded the Elder Dragon of their former alliance.

Personally, I'd decide on Xantcha regardless as Rakdos as an Identity never had the idea of Political matter before; just Mindless Violence & worse (See: Hatebear Decks.).

As for stuff to get, it updated.

  1. Gaea's Cradle (For Omnath.)
  2. Gauntlet of Might (For Mono- Burn)
  3. Lion's Eye Diamond (For cEDH Boros)
  4. Wrenn and Six (For Superfriends, & Lord Windgrace )
  5. Force of Will (Several Decks involving )
  6. Many Mana Rocks.
  7. Other crap.

Well, do you want to check my Omnath deck yet? Just asking as a reminder. ;D

July 17, 2019 1:20 p.m.

I did a bit of reserch to double check my knoledge and i was wrong acording to lore they did not meet it was just ajani and sarkhan.

They all did seperatly fight against Nicol Bolas.

The Rakdos guild does not necessarily represent all red black combination, just the red black on ravnica so it could be political.

about the omnath deck, I would build it slightly different a couple of your bombs slots i think would be better as synergy slots instead.

My recomendations

  • Allosaurus Rider

  • Hope of Ghirapur

  • Verdurous Gearhulk

  • Wolfbriar Elemental

  • Hall of Triumph

  • Rites of Flourishing (you have two on the list)

  • a couple of lands

  • the 3 basic land fetches you have in your mana base swap them for other lands. the idea of deck thinning does not work on this scale.

-Xantid Swarm

-Primal Growth

a couple more pieces of protection for omnath

Ill continue to look but these are the initial changes id make

July 18, 2019 4 a.m.

BMHKain says... #20

@SP3CTR3_chelts: Thanks so far; but do know this deck is supposed to benefit from the truly artificial even in Mono-. Just a heads up in case anyone cares... ;/

Also, I threw in such cards in the Maybeboard as well; are they what are meant to be cut?

July 19, 2019 1:55 p.m.

BMHKain says... #21

How many BUMPs can you find in a garbage card? A lot, apparently...

@SP3CTR3_chelts: While you're in progress trying to find stuff for Omnath #1, I just wanted to know what impurities you'll also add; see Post 20. I'll be doing some stuff in the meanwhile...

July 20, 2019 11:39 a.m.

BMHKain says... #22


I was talking about Eldraine coming soon. Already Hyped as hell.

@SP3CTR3_chelts: How is your research on this? You didn't even answer if the stuff in question in my Maybeboard are Cut worthy. That said though, is bumping you getting annoying? I try to do it for once per day exclusively, so I don't act as much as a spamming imbecile. I just want to know your progress on this; unless you got none since?

Ah well, At least I found a way to reference DOCTOR WHO & the Fate/ section of the Nasuverse all at the same time. I now just want to see The Doctor (Somewhere within Matt Smith-Present era) against Saber; AKA Artoria Pendragon (Basically a Gender Bent King Arthur.)

July 21, 2019 9:13 a.m.

BMHKain says... #23


As far as I know; 2 cards have been revealed thus far. & apparently WotC & Oathbreaker Staff are waging WAR.

I don't suppose you still have time to help this project any further? I'll just remove Yeva if you wish. If you're unable to do that; wish me the best of luck of a deck w/ a precise direction that's not working. Later.

July 22, 2019 1:42 p.m.

BMHKain says... #24

NOBODY OUTBUMPS- (Looks at a panel of Mighty Atom) OH MY F---ING GOD! OSAMU TEZUKA-sama!!! WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DRAW!!?

SPOILER: Ol Atom apparently was being treated like a damn gas station. Jeez, being Politically Incorrect has to be World Law back in 195?...

@SP3CTR3_chelts: Well, I dunno what else to believe; I finished an "Exile Matters" Concept Deck. I finished a Kruphix, God of Horizons deck, that new spoiler from Throne of Eldraine is going to pump up my Human Tribal Deck better than Adun Oakenshield would as a Legend. I still have 3 decks to finish; A Bant Enchantress Deck with a choice of One of Two Commanders, Mono- Burn on a level higher than one can believe the possibility, Xantcha, Sleeper Agent Politics Deck, & now; this. I still have 4 decklists to complete.

So I'll ask again: Do you have any ideas for adds or cuts, or as Jotaro Kujo would say: "Well? Do you bet or not? Let's hear you say it loud and clear, D'Arby!" God, I love my JoJo; One of my favorite quotes from Stardust Crusaders. Unfortunate we never were able to know Jotaro's hand when D'Arby has 4 Kings. But back to the deck; I'd really appreciate an idea for an add or a cut. If you are exhausted from all this like so many already are; I dunno who else can help; nobody wants to help w/ Xantcha Politics matters, much less a "Semi-Comptitive" Burn deck. I can handle Bant Enchantress, but I need more creatures in Bant colors that benefit as mere Mono Color; & just wipes them out. I really don't want to act like a Bancho-School Uniform sporting badass that the "Bishoujo-Possible" Schoolgirls DO like. After all, I'm nothing but a damn failure; even at trying to get help; & pusing it to a level beyond their potential. Is this one of Grixis' Personality traits? (& yes. It may seem strange, but I am of overall colors.) Well, do you have any fight left? :/

July 23, 2019 12:45 p.m.

Sorry for the delay I've been on holiday for a few days.

Sorry my previous post was difficult to understand all the - and + got turned into bullet points, all the things above and including primal grown are -s and the rest are +.

Don't worry I do not find the bumps annoying at all, but I don't check tapped out daily.

That does sound quite cool i am a fan of Dr. who and fate/zero :)

Eldraine does look quite good, I try not to get too hyped until more official spoilers are out as a lot is speculation. On a similar note they announced that they are doing pre con brawl decks do you think that they will be a replacement to this years commander pre cons or in addition to? ( arcane signet will be going in most of my commander decks!)

Im most happy to continue helping :) and dont remove yeva i think flash enablers for omnath are brilliant you should put more in!

Bant enchantment is amazing i would build it either Rafiq of the Many and build it more about attack alone (less enchantments but quite potent) or the other i would build is Tuvasa the Sunlit with all the other enchantress cards for ultimate draw and power ups (My wife has this deck and the card advantage this generates is ridiculous) .

Who are you using for the mono red commander? i think this could be quite difficult to build but interesting, like i mentioned before the closest i have is Purphoros, God of the Forge .

Xantcha, Sleeper Agent ive had a look at EDHREC and there are alot of interesting cards that can go in this deck, I would recomend having a look!

July 24, 2019 5:50 a.m.

BMHKain says... #26

@SP3CTR3_chelts: Huh. Someone who does still care despite more personal matters. Don't worry; I understand myself; though when I show my personality traits on my userpage, you may not be able to see me the same way again. Ironic, as I've yet to add a single thing to my personal Signature Spellbook.

Whatever. Anyway, for Throne of Eldraine; you're lucky. My Hype level is too high; & based on what I've read; people actually Hate Arcane Signet (Not bracketing this as it isn't on here just yet.); ALOT. A common, & something here that can be used for Commander, & maybe Brawl? Ah who cares; I'm trapped in my own cesspool of Hype; I just pray the sodium level doesn't convert to even that...

Flash enablers, huh... Well, after a Scryfall, this is what I got:

  1. Aluren (Still thinking on this.)

  2. Emergence Zone

  3. Shimmer Myr (Considering if I use Artifacts at all.)

  4. Vedalken Orrery

  5. Vernal Equinox (Still thinking on this.)

  6. Vivien, Champion of the Wilds

  7. Winding Canyons

  8. Yeva, Nature's Herald

Yep, that all for Mono-.

For Bant Enchantress; I actually took a different direction entirely; in this case, having a choice between one of Two Commanders; both having similar routes to victory; I chose Estrid, the Masked , & Jenara, Asura of War . While both commanders are differing in many ways, the deck has ways in which both choices can coexist w/ one another. Very upsetting so few ever play Jenara herself; but considering the thematic element of choosing War, or Peace, I'll try to balance the Enchantment permanent amount; but I've enough problems trying to find some that doesn't wipeout my stuff.

For Mono- Burn? Bad news: Neheb, the Eternal . Right now, I'm trying to find something better; though if the God from Theros is the better choice, so be it.

Finally, this is a rather specific kind of Xantcha, Sleeper Agent deck I'm making; a "Politics Matter" Deck. I tried checking out EDHREC, but I'm not so sure if what they're recommending is good for politics or just Hatebear as a whole; though I'm leaning on the latter; not what this deck wants in my mind...

Well, all thoughts reconnect; this is what I've revealed. Not to mention; I had to reupload that one Xantcha deck of mine (Apparently mentioning what you're the worst at was extremely confusing.), I'll leave the ideas to you for now; I have a trait list to deal with...

July 24, 2019 10:56 a.m.

I'm back IKR twice in one day :D

I had a look at your personality traits and I'm not supprised lots of them seem fitting to the person i have chatted with on here. (Except maybe Shy but that is probably due to being through the PC)

yeah Im normally good at not getting too hyped up, however if i do get hyped about something its normally quite bad :P

I sooo defiantly need 6 signets!!!

I would use every single one of those in an omnath deck except shimmer myr. This is so when you have a lot of mana in your pool if someone removes omnath you can bring him back in and not loose your stockpile of mana!.

yes Jenara, Asura of War is thematically fitting, her abilities are just not as good as many other bant commanders. estrid is definitely a good choice 3rd in my eyes for bant commander 2nd in terms of commander synergy. I lover her +2 and all of the Wild Growth style ramp enchantments!! However, I have seen a couple of people play her and accelerate quickly then just fizzle out, I think tuvasa is an upgrade as she has draw and pump in the commander itself! (i would still run estrid in the 99 of course).

I see how neheb could work keep me updated with how the brew goes :) Point of note. Coveted jewel and endless atles are great draw for mono red decks which normally struggle. Id also of course look at madness cards and other 'when you discard this card' abilities for ultimate value.

I think the fine line between hatebear and politics deck is how you play them but it at least has some good cards. Its normally my first port of call for a deck unless i am building something non typical.

July 24, 2019 2:02 p.m.

BMHKain says... #28

Ironic; those aren't even my whole glossary of Personality Traits; so just expect more later on; as for Shy, it almost get's to the point of Timid/Meek; one of which will be a part of this.

Crap. My hype is Sodium Chlorinating; & it now includes CMDR 2019.

Are you sure about this? Even TolarianCommunityCollege's Professor (Real Name: Brian Lewis.) stated so many times even though his fans like zombies that it just is a risk to use; based on Twitter alone:

Liking Arcane Signet = Irredeamable Hate from the Commandeer Community; maybe even Brawl. That's just my opinion; thwart it though if you can prove different.

Already Added them.

The Thematic Element behind such a Bant Enchantress Deck is that Estrid, the Masked is the one who promotes Peace(craft); this is expressed more than all means through her ever creating masks; which all have Totem Armor. Jenara, Asura of War was chosen over Rafiq of the Many as just having one creature attack via Exalted seems underwhelming to me; & he too would've been a decent second. Even Tuvasa the Sunlit w/ HUGE Aggro Potential probably isn't cut up for the job of War. In case you wish to know, Tuvasa is the most powerful Merfolk in Ixalan; stronger than even Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca ; & is more pure than the tyrant Merfolk; so, that enough could prove the only choice for War is Jenara, Asura of War . Such an Angelic menace; she can just get stronger through stuff like Serra's Sanctum , & all those +1/+1 Counters stay w/ her turn after turn until she dies; simple, but very powerful. She is essentially the self-empowering; CMDR Damage abomination of a commander option. I hope this helps at least...

Can't even find any good cards w/ either Madness; nor stuff requiring discard. Oh well, At least Madness is one of the themes of a Keyword Theme deck for CMDR 2019. Might simply get that & Morph. Any suggestions?

Good point. I'll have to Gamble on my choices... I guess I could utilize a combination of Hatebear & Politics; Basically having control of board presence while having at least one ally without being a damned Archenemy. Thanks for the help. I'll see what else I can do about all this; I think Iknow what to use for Xantcha, Sleeper Agent , Estrid, the Masked / Jenara, Asura of War , but not Neheb, the Eternal , or Omnath, Locus of Mana . I'll then proceed after all that to Yarok, the Desecrated ... Tee Hee...

Thanks again. :)

July 24, 2019 5:35 p.m.

BMHKain says... #29

BUMPING LIKE FARROKH BULSARA OF ZANZIBAR! Wait. Does anyone know that name? BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY did have moments that were falsely interpreted in the film. I wonder why they never showed his death in 1991... BMH has MORBID!

I dunno if you're still aware, but I'm trying to refine my Xantcha, Sleeper Agent deck w/ enough competitive nature all while having just the right dose of Political Alliance; mixed with mild Hatebear. Result so far? Failure. It just looks more like any ordinary Hatebear deck for the most part. Sure, manipulating two opponents is an awesome idea, but what else to do about this deck? I really might need some good ideas for the Politics part; but at this point; it's all me, I guess... That said, What are your thoughts on Post 28? Tuvasa the Sunlit is a LITERAL Ixalanian Merfolk Goddess Queen; & her love for her kin that not even Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca wants to use. & I already have Estrid, the Masked for Peace.

I'd still like your thoughts though... :/

July 25, 2019 11:54 a.m.

BMHKain says... #30

Time to bump your own butt with MR. BOOT!

BTW, this is a joke; though I dunno if anyone remembers that One Demented Flash Animation...

Still failing at Xantcha Politics, & Mono- Burn is just really hard to get with.

So, any more ideas? I'm guessing with all the Flash Enablers, I wonder what's left to add? I dunno; maybe you do?

July 26, 2019 5:18 a.m.

BMHKain says... #31


(You rock, Hotei-san... Same for Wil Wheaton at any age.)

@SP3CTR3_chelts: (Why did I forget each time to get to you?!)

Remember what I said on Post 28; they explain why I chose Estrid, the Masked ; & I chose Jenara, Asura of War as her Flavor Text gives dying soldiers of Bant hope, but Jenara doesn't give a damn about helping such mortal lives, & would instead focus on the War than everything otherwise.

But, yeah, after failing to get your attention a plethora times; what else would you add/cut? All while making this an unconventional Mono- deck. At this point, I dunno if my still, WIP Xantcha can be any stronger while controlling Political Aspects of the Board. I plan to do Tana/Bruse Tarl Equipment Matters Voltron/GoLion though; it's Attempt 2 though...

July 27, 2019 10:17 a.m.

BMHKain says... #32


@SP3CTR3_chelts: I wonder if you're still around; I'm seriously losing motivation on this...

I am still doing an Unorthodox Mono- Deck, but I dunno what to add/cut... Oh, & I discarded the whole Color Identity Project of mine. I wonder what else to do besides find a Grixis Legendary I relate the Most to...

So, any suggestions?

July 28, 2019 8:48 a.m.

sorry did not get what "Are you sure about this? Even TolarianCommunityCollege's Professor (Real Name: Brian Lewis.) stated so many times even though his fans like zombies that it just is a risk to use; based on Twitter alone:" was reffering too

yes i do not think the signet is balanced i think it should not have been made however everyone is going to use it so so will i!

Oh god Rafiq is not underwhelming he enables ely aggression and by giving something trample or unblockable can really shine late game without having to risk your board state! yes jenara is self powering but it is nothing compared to tuvasas abilities, she self empowers and self draws being a ridiculous value engine!

Yes the new madness mechanic cards might be very useful, and more importantly there will be other cards to support using the mechanic (but it will most likely be red black)

July 29, 2019 5:46 a.m.

BMHKain says... #34

Seriously, BMH. Bumping does nothing anymore...

@SP3CTR3_chelts: Hmph. Well, I do apologize for the Professor notion; the MTG Community is ranting about, well, EVERYTHING now. They don't seem to give a care about what WotC is even releasing, much less everything else; all of which I don't understand. That said; & I'd really like to know what the hell is going on w/ the MTG Community as a whole now; as something has gone wrong, & I've no clue what.

For Rafiq of the Many , he was so close to representing War as a theme. I even wanted to use him at some point in case Jenara doesn't Pull her weight. Tuvasa the Sunlit is powerful indeed, considering she does represent Peace even though she herself is a friggen goddess, maybe I'll cut Estrid, the Masked for her, even though I'd have to shred Forge of Heroes as well. Two Birds with one Stone Destroyed. Wish I had the song in that link...

Anyways from here, we'll have to resume talking about Omnath #1...

July 31, 2019 9:05 a.m.

BMHKain says... #35


(BTW, that was the song I was looking for previously; I just got the name wrong.)

Getting back to my unorthodox Omnath, Locus of Mana deck, SP3CTR3_chelts, I put in the appropriate Flash Engines. Anything else I should cut? Oh, & somebody else seems to be a bigger help for Mono- Burn anyway. You don't need to help me w/ that unless I may require it.

As for ol' Omnath… I wonder what else would be needed for this; cuts? Adds? I only need 8 to achieve 100. I already have enough problems w/ my Grixis Personality Traits, my Xantcha, Sleeper Agent deck, & Kykar, Wind's Fury decks. I really wish somebody helps w/ my Xantcha "Politics Matter" Deck soon. But what else to add/cut?

Here's the deck if you don't remember:

Also, there is one last thing I'd like to note about Mono- Burn;

…I don't even have Gauntlet of Might in my collection. I'll never EVER afford it; & Gauntlet of Power may not be any better unless it does matter about whether or not a Basic is Snow or not; WHICH IT DOESN'T. Any alts for This Beast of a Budget ?

Finally, I was working on a Bant Enchantress Deck w/ Aura/semi-Voltron elements. I hope this helps BTW. Perhaps that's why I initially opposed Rafiq of the Many ; as conventional Voltron running him uses Equips in the Aura's Stead...

July 31, 2019 10:49 a.m.

Rafiq of the Many represents the honour of knightly war. as most of the original bant shard did. the classic champion walking forward before the army to challenge the opposing champion. So he does represent war but of a different type.

in terms of cutting Rites of Flourishing helps opps too much. Lifecrafter's Bestiary is not going to be much draw. Growing Rites of Itlimoc  Flip again you are not going to have too many creatures, Bow of Nylea this again is not going to give much benefit. Mana Vault this combo piece does not really work in this kind of deck and the mana it makes is not green. Vivien's Arkbow i really do not like this card. Reap and Sow land destruction is not the best on this small scale.

Tree of Tales , Vivid Grove Lotus Field there are no reasons to run these over basics in this deck. I would swap one in for a forest one in for Rogue's Passage and ditch the last.

the classic gauntlet of might substitutes are the three: Gauntlet of Power (which you clearly know about) Caged Sun and Extraplanar Lens

August 1, 2019 4:48 a.m.

BMHKain says... #37

@SP3CTR3_chelts: I did everything but the 2nd to last step. I cut all 3 cards, but I guess you meant replace w/ a Basic, & Rogue's Passage , & nothing else? From there...

I dun suppose you'd help me w/ this as well? You're the one that suggested something Thematic, But Powerful for Both CMDR choices. I figured maybe you'd help me here as well? 10 Over BTW... Ah whatever. I'm trying to revise some stuff; including Equipment Matters Naya Partners Voltron. But this color combo is the worst at it. Any ideas for either?

August 2, 2019 11:50 a.m.

BMHKain says... #38


@SP3CTR3_chelts: Got the Former the deck to 100, though I might need help w/ the Deck Link above if needed so. I'm already having problems of my own w/ Tana, the Bloodsower & Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder as Partners in an Equip-Matters Voltron deck. I'll ask someone else on the notion...

August 3, 2019 7:59 a.m.

BMHKain says... #39


(Implying that there is a Follow-Up Ad for a GEICO ad about A Camel on Wednesday.)

@SP3CTR3_chelts: So, do you still want to help me on the Bant Enchantress/Aura Matters Voltron deck? I changed CMDR choices the way you see fit; but I still have to make cuts & adds, if any for the latter. As for Some of the Auras, they are used for more versatility than being just Voltron/GoLion Centric. But the question remains; do you want to help? I just changed CMDRS that are Politics Frendly to Xantcha, Sleeper Agent to Mogis, God of Slaughter ; though I doubt that would be a good idea regardless... Thoughts?

August 4, 2019 9:33 a.m.

Hey still happy to help :) bant wise i think the two commanders need different decks pick a commander and make a deck do not just swap in different commanders for the same one. Tuvasa is more lots of enchantments and enchanters (when you cast an enchantment draw a card) then win through pure card advantage and heavily enchanted creatures. rafiq is all about the aggression he wants to win early. When you have decided which I will make recommendations.

IMHO equipment matters decks need 4 things, white, red, aggression and a protective/ed commander. this is why i believe Zurgo Helmsmasher , Narset, Enlightened Master , Tajic, Blade of the Legion are much better suited to this kind of deck. as i belive equipment matters decks are still effectively voltron builds swapping out xantcha to mogis swapps it away from politics and more to hurting everyone (the mogis deck in our playgroup is called General. Pain)

August 5, 2019 8:58 a.m.

BMHKain says... #41

@SP3CTR3_chelts: Was Tuvasa the Sunlit that obsessed with Land, Sea, & the Sun? & Was that Sun The Immortal Sun ; which isn't even a true sun? I chose her effortlessly. This is obviously Enchantment Matters; & to be frank; Rafiq wasn't as good as he was long ago... Just an opinion, but now I personally wonder if Estrid, the Masked is also worth putting in the (now) 99?

As for Equip Matters: I got both & , the cards are more aggressive as well as supportive; Problem? Even for Partners ( Tana, the Bloodsower & Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder ) neither have self protection from harm; & no card in exists to help Artifice; unless you're willing to make a list of Mono- cards that break this rule.

Sorry, but at least I made my choice for Bant Enchantress. I personally wonder if we need a new thread for that...

August 5, 2019 10:42 a.m.

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