Win-cons for Toshiro?
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on May 22, 2015, 5:06 p.m. by Phaetion
The deck in reference: Toshi's Little Shop of Dark Magic
I built a deck with Toshiro Umezawa at the helm. In testing, however, I was having issues trying to end the game. Are there any ways I could win the game besides smashing people with beaters or using Exsanguinate? I'm using Rise of the Dark Realms as well, but I doubt it's the most efficient of finishers. Thanks in advance.
I'm not sure on the Wand. I can see it being useful here, but 7 mana is a lot to ask for, especially in Black.
May 22, 2015 6:30 p.m.
Alright, I mean that, for 7 mana (and a whole lot more afterward-IF it sticks), it can do a little bit of damage. It's a rather fragile path to go.
May 22, 2015 6:31 p.m.
jandrobard says... #5
Guiltfeeder could work, I guess. Repay in Kind makes killing people easier and works wonders with Wound Reflection. Profane Command drains and reanimates (though sadly, you can't Toshiro-flashback it). Massacre Wurm is slow and expensive, but could work. Your best bet may be Eye of Ugin+legendary eldrazi.
You said 7 mana is a lot for black. You are using Cabal Coffers with tutors for it, right?
May 22, 2015 7:33 p.m.
I said that...but corrected myself afterwards (in a way).
I could tutor for Coffers, but it isn't what I usually tutor for. In fact, my future builds will rely less on it (Heck, Coffers/Urborg will not be in the decks. Sacrilege, I know, but I'm growing tired of seeing it).
May 22, 2015 7:54 p.m.
You complain about having trouble getting to 7 mana but frown on the best mana producer in black...
????
May 22, 2015 8:56 p.m.
I'm not frowning on Coffers. I may feel like a break from jamming it into all of my decks (I might build a deck without the usual suspects as a challenge).
Also, it's not having trouble getting to 7 mana, it's what to DO with the said 7 mana. Sphinx-Bone Wand is harder to protect in Black than it is Blue. I could pay 3, play Merciless Executioner, trigger Toshi, and cast Insidious Dreams for 4. There's my 7 mana.
May 22, 2015 9:03 p.m.
Some more ideas for the deck: Slaughter, Corpse Dance (buyback gets around Toshi's exile clause.), Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed (More spell recursion, if you can afford it...).
May 28, 2015 8:01 a.m.
I had Xiahou in the deck at one point. I might add him back in somehow. I'll consider the other two.
CuteSnail says... #2
In mono black those are the two win con's I think of. The other is Mortal Combat, but that's not going to work.
Sphinx-Bone Wand could work.
May 22, 2015 5:30 p.m.