Which has more support in a red white edh deck soldiers or warriors?

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Posted on April 19, 2017, 1:07 p.m. by xrex479

I built a friend red white soldier edh deck. The main goal of the deck is to go wide with other creatures giving buffs to each other. (a team work deck) Every creature generates some sort of buff, like trample, vigilance, double strike, or +1/+1. With the new Amonkhet set coming out there are a bunch of new warriors that offer teamwork buffs. So the question is which gives more support to other creatures, soldiers or warriors?

xrex479 says... #2

Warrior card buffs Lovisa Coldeyes,Archetype of Aggression,Herald of Dromoka,Arashin Foremost and other new cards from amonkhet

April 19, 2017 1:11 p.m.

xrex479 says... #3

I realize that soldiers probably have more support but I want to see if warriors are viable too.

April 19, 2017 1:23 p.m.

Mardu Warriors would be better. You'll get access to the black warrior cards from Tarkir.

April 19, 2017 5:29 p.m.

maxon says... #5

Rw soldiers has Assemble the Legion, and Rise of the Hobgoblins what more you want? :)

April 19, 2017 5:40 p.m.

xrex479 says... #6

Karns_Pyromancer it's True That RBW has the best warriors but I just like the combination of just RW. maxon the deck isn't much of a token deck. It's mostly creatures that grant buffs for other creatures. They're great cards and will probably be in the deck either way.

I'm looking for comparison between cards like Lovisa Coldeyes vs Captain of the Watch.

April 19, 2017 7:41 p.m.

maxon says... #7

I here ya. I'd still run Rise of the Hobgoblins though if your deck can spare the space. Having an army of potential first strike tends to keep people from swingin your way. Good luck with the build!

April 19, 2017 7:48 p.m.

greyninja says... #8

What are some of the draw-card and consistency pieces in the deck? "Staples" that help keep you chugging into the late game? I built Aurelia, the Warleader for my fiance from her mono-w 60 card deck; and that's my challenge I'm finding.

In boros there aren't many draw options. Mentor of the Meek can be pretty darn good if you're dumping out weenies. If the deck is doing a good job of pumping those weenies; you might be better off with Stonehewer Giant. Just trying to think on flavor and with utility. Maybe do Stonehewer Giant regardless haha it's so good

Who's the commander?

Agrus Kos, Wojek Veteran
Akiri, Line-Slinger
Anax and Cymede
Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas
Tajic, Blade of the Legion
Brion Stoutarm
Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer

Out of these seven: I'd do Jor Kadeen if you're running a lot of mana rocks, Agrus Kos fits your theme for soldiers, Tajic if you're going for commander damage, or Brion for maximum hilarity. Obviously it can be whoever but these are what I found that sync

April 19, 2017 10:42 p.m.

Lordeh says... #9

Or just play Zurgo Helmsmasher and go mardu colours.

April 19, 2017 10:47 p.m.

xrex479 says... #10

Lol I myself already play zurgo Zurgo's toolbox of death. His deck is a RW teamwork deck.

April 19, 2017 11:08 p.m.

xrex479 says... #11

greyninja he switches between Aurelia, the Warleader and Adriana, Captain of the Guard both of witch aren't soldiers or warriors. But 3 of the commanders you mentioned are in the deck. Tajic, Blade of the Legion, Agrus Kos, Wojek Veteran and Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer

April 19, 2017 11:21 p.m.

greyninja says... #12

Aurelia, the Warleader is super fun. I dropped some $$ to get her a Sword of Fire and Ice, but the wifey won't let me add Sword of Feast and Famine because it's "too mean". Both are great targets for the aforementioned Stonehewer Giant lol

April 20, 2017 1:02 a.m.

xrex479 says... #13

With the new amonkhet set coming out there are lots of support cards for warriors Devoted Crop-Mate Tah-Crop Elite Combat Celebrant,Oketra's Monument and Honored Crop-Captain

April 20, 2017 1:37 a.m.

sonnet666 says... #14

Friendly reminder that you don't need to pick one over the other.

The best anthems in the format either aren't creature specific: Crescendo of War, Cathars' Crusade, Archangel of Strife, Archangel of Thune, Eldrazi Monument, Jazal Goldmane, and Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, or don't mention one type over another: Coat of Arms, so there's no reason all your tokens need to be of the same type. (Before anyone says it, it does not matter that some of those buff your opponents' creatures. The fact that you are going to have so many more creatures than them will negate any advantage they might stand to receive.)

If you're planning on going wide, Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer is without a doubt the best choice as commander, although Adriana, Captain of the Guard can be solid if you don't want to build into artfacts and usually play with 4 or more people.

As far as Soldiers or Warriors as a tribe, building tribal decks is much less an issue of how many good creatures there are of that tribe, and more about how many cards give you bonuses for sticking to that tribe and including a lot of creatures of that type. In this respect it's much more useful to search though all the cards that mention that type in their text box, rather than looking though all the creatures that are that type.

Soldiers: Gather Search (106 cards, 96 in Boros colors)

Warriors: Gather Search (90 cards, 39 in Boros colors)

Just looking at those numbers, it's easy to see that Soldiers are more supported than Warriors, and especially so in red and white. To break it down further, lets check how many of those cards have effects that are relevant is commander (i.e. generate card advantage, scale well in multiplayer, are cost efficient, and/or allow you to cast spells more efficiently.) Specifically, I'm looking for effects that reward you for playing Soldiers or Warriors, rather than cards that just make them like Assemble the Legion, which can go in any deck.

Soldiers:

Here we have, 2 cost reducers, 4 anthem effects, 1 cheater, 2 removal spells, and a sword. Kind of mediocre actually, the anthem effects are outclassed by what I listed above, and only Catapult Master, Preeminent Captain, and Unified Strike really require you to build heavily into their tribe.

Warriors:

(Non-Boros)

Here we have, 1 sac outlet / life drainer, 2 evasion effects (probably better options for this, Cover of Darkness for example), 1 cost reducer, 1 (meh) haste granter, and 3 anthem effects. Clearly, Warriors are the less supported tribe here.

To sum up: Soldiers have more support than Warriors, especially in Boros; there's no reason to stick to one over the other; don't go nuts trying to force a theme if there's no reward for it.

April 20, 2017 1:37 p.m.

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