Vanquisher's Banner

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Posted on Sept. 21, 2017, 7:05 p.m. by Forkbeard

So as a fan of tribal EDH, I keep going back and forth on Vanquisher's Banner. The anthem effect is nice but the true appeal is the card draw element. That said, the casting cost of 5 seems a bit rich for what it is. I think I may try to find a home for it in both my Goblin + Elf decks to see how it plays, but I'm curious to hear some other opinions from the TO community. Decent card, total jank or somewhere in between?

DrukenReaps says... #2

Some tribes it would be bad but others it will be nice. I think in goblins where card draw is uncommon and lots of low to the ground cheap creatures can be played it will perform great. But in say merfolk where card draw is a main function of the tribe I think there are much better anthems.

September 21, 2017 7:17 p.m.

I feel like it really depends on your meta and/or the deck you're dealing with. Banner seems to me to favor lower costed creatures in decks that intend to go wide. Elves/Goblins seems like a good start. I feel like any deck that would consider cards like Door of Destinies should be considering Vanquisher's Banner. I do however, feel like Kindred Discovery is probably a better choice in decks that can run it.

September 21, 2017 7:17 p.m.

Forkbeard says... #4

Agreed on Kindred Discovery. I've slid that card into my sliver deck & my elf deck (running Rashmi as the general) and I'm liking it so far.

September 21, 2017 7:21 p.m.

DarkMagician says... #5

Would personally only run this in a white and/or red deck. Black, blue and green have better card draw options. Blue has Kindred Discovery, Black has Phyrexian Arena and Necropotence (along with a fair bit of life gain) and Green has Soul of the Harvest and Zendikar Resurgent as well as Glimpse of Nature. Yes the Green options tend to be more expensive but it's Green, if you're not ramping hard then you're playing it wrong lol.

September 21, 2017 8:25 p.m.

DarkMagician says... #6

Would personally only run this in a white and/or red deck. Black, blue and green have better card draw options. Blue has Kindred Discovery, Black has Phyrexian Arena and Necropotence (along with a fair bit of life gain) and Green has Soul of the Harvest and Zendikar Resurgent as well as Glimpse of Nature. Yes the Green options tend to be more expensive but it's Green, if you're not ramping hard then you're playing it wrong lol.

September 21, 2017 8:26 p.m.

smackjack says... #7

cmc5 is nothing in an elf deck, this is going straight to my Ezuri EDH deck :)

September 22, 2017 5:53 a.m.

AlexoBn says... #8

I would run it in a gw selvala elf deck. I think it is quite easy to cast if you have elves but you will highly benefit of it the moment you start chaining your elf spells

September 22, 2017 5:53 a.m.

griffstick says... #9

I think if you're running tribal there isn't a better anthem to run I agree that 5 is high. If you have 25 cards in your deck that are of the chosen type then run it because if your running 36 to 38 lands then 1/3 of your spells draw you cards. Seems really good in a tribe

September 22, 2017 7:13 a.m.

griffstick says... #10

But you have to consuder what colors yoyre running too. If you're in mono green then this isn't really worth it at 5 cmc because there are so many green cards that grant you cards for casting creature spells like Zendikar Resurgent and Primordial Sage to name few.

September 22, 2017 7:17 a.m.

smackjack says... #11

Well the more the marrier, its not a bad thing to have 2 of this effect in play :). Also, i think banner is better than Resurgent because its harder to remove and the anthem.

September 22, 2017 7:53 a.m.

Imagine if all of your creatures read "When you cast this card draw a card". I think this card is great and is what 9/10 tribal decks want. Especially with all of the ramp in EDH. Playing this card ahead of schedule (turns 3-4) can put you far ahead. And if you draw it later in the game it essentially allows you to "redraw" any creature you draw afterwards. I think goblins and elves both want to run this card in the 99

September 22, 2017 11:03 a.m.

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