UB Ramp Suggestions
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on April 2, 2015, 5:07 a.m. by Megalomania
My UB combo deck Apocalypse Project is in need of ramp to help it consistently combo off early in the game (turn 4-6). I currently have Sol Ring, Mana Vault, Dark Ritual, Grim Monolith and Gilded Lotus.
Any other suggestioms other than Mana Crypt which is currently out of my budget?
Maybe Talisman of Dominance, Mind Stone, Ancient Tomb? At the very least, the Ancient Tomb is one of the most busted lands for commander.
April 2, 2015 7:18 a.m.
Megalomania says... #4
I have Ancient Tomb. I was thinking more of cards like Lotus Petal or Chrome Mox.
Talismans and Signets aren't able to provide "sudden bursts" of acceleration that Dark Ritual does. Are Moxes and Lotus Petal my best options?
April 2, 2015 7:38 a.m.
lemmingllama says... #5
Chrome Mox is one of your better plays. I personally don't like running Lotus Petal unless I'm playing Storm, I prefer something that sticks around if things go wrong.
April 2, 2015 8:29 a.m.
Megalomania says... #6
I'm actually trying to strengthen a storm combo of mine. Hmmm..
April 2, 2015 6:23 p.m.
Megalomania says... #7
Btw, how many artifacts will I need to have in the deck to make Mox Diamond workable?
April 2, 2015 7:36 p.m.
Liliana of the Dark Realms can find Swamps for days after you get your Watery Grave.
Tezzeret the Seeker can find mana rocks or can pull out Artifact Lands for free. -0 for Darksteel Citadel, Seat of the Synod, and Vault of Whispers. Same for Trinket Mage.
Also:
- Cabal Coffers & Magus of the Coffers
- Bubbling Muck & High Tide
- Nirkana Revenant & Crypt Ghast
- Liliana's Shade
- Black Market
And:
April 2, 2015 10:57 p.m.
Megalomania says... #10
I suppose those would work on most of the other Dimir decks and some were once in mine but right now I am aiming to consistently end games by turn 5-6.
My problem generally goes down to having enough mana (6-7) to cast the combo Future Sight + Helm of Awakening + Sensei's Divining Top and/or get enough rocks from the library to play Tendrils of Agony.
Sorry if I wasn't clear on that before. I guess this contextualizes my "need for ramp".
April 3, 2015 1:53 a.m.
cosmicteapot says... #12
Running Mox Opal in EDH requires at least 20 artifacts, in my opinion. If you need more explosive mana, cards like Cabal Ritual, High Tide and Culling of the Weak could work.
High Tide also combos with palinchron, so it has its advantages.
April 3, 2015 12:34 p.m.
CastleSiege says... #13
Phyrexian Tower, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
can also use Soothsaying as another top/scroll effect.
April 3, 2015 3:01 p.m.
I run Mox Opal in my Niv-Mizzet deck and I actually run exactly 20 artifacts. I do however also run tons of draw. What's more important than the number of artifacts you run is how many CHEAP artifacts you run. Running 20 artifacts doesn't help if they all cost 5 or more mana. You need plenty of cheap artifacts, draw also helps.
Decklist: Pimp-Mizzet, the $$$mind
I pretty much always get it active when I draw it, many times even turn 1-2. If you desperately need a fast win then I'd easily run Mox Opal.
April 3, 2015 3:50 p.m.
Megalomania says... #15
I see. The Moxes appear to be my best options then. I have a good number of draw engines and will be running close to 20 artifacts.
I plan on taking out cards like Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time to make room for cards like Talisman of Dominance and Dimir Signet.
I like the Soothsaying idea. Just don't know if I still have room to get it back in the deck.
Thanks for the suggestions guys! I'm getting excited to see where the next few changes in the deck takes me. Keep 'em coming!
DeathChant17 says... #2
Lotus Vale, Chromatic Lantern, Dimir Signet, and Temple of the False God?
April 2, 2015 6:11 a.m.