swapping cards in Counterpunch
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on Nov. 15, 2011, 11:50 a.m. by nsmh11
So, ive been looking through the deck and while im having some trouble justifying some switches, i was looking to see if i'd be making a good swap to take out Alliance of Arms for Intangible Virtue
I feel like its almost a no brainer, but i'd like the peace of mind, please.
My understanding is that because each of those effects are under your control when you put a token into play you get to choose the order in which they go on the stack. In this case you would put the Intangible Virtue on the stack first, followed by Sigil Captain. That way Sigil Captain would resolve first making your 1/1 tokens into 1/1 tokens with 2 +1/+1 counters on them, followed by Intangible Virtue's effect which doesn't care that they have counters making them into 2/2 tokens with Vigilance and 2 +1/+1 counters on them.
November 15, 2011 4:29 p.m.
was thinking virtue would be state based a la Heartless Summoning but wasn't sure
November 15, 2011 8 p.m.
I think you may be misreading Alliance of Arms . No matter who pays the mana, every player gets the same amount of 1/1 soldier tokens. If everyone else paid nothing and you paid 10, then everyone would get 10 1/1s.
From what you were saying, it sounded like you thought each player only got as many tokens as mana they personally paid.
November 15, 2011 10:27 p.m.
ahh, ok. I did misread it. Making me wonder now. Could potentially be a good group hug to buy myself some time. Still liking Intangible Virtue more though. I can hold it till they eat my Sigil Captain at least
November 16, 2011 12:46 a.m.
Dmleitch is incorrect.
Intangible Virtue makes it so every single token that eneters the battlefield is 1/1 stronger and makes it have vigilance. As long as it's on the battlefield, it will override Sigil Captain s ability.
November 20, 2011 10:14 p.m.
sounds good. will go ahead and keep Intangible Virtue in. never hurts to have backup token buffs
nsmh11 says... #2
quick clarify for those that cant quite be arsed to check: the deck is all about tokens out the rear to sac. THe question is: take the chance and keep Alliance of Arms ready when everyone else is almost completely tapped out, or go ahead and have my tokens be able to serve some purpose outside of ammo with Intangible Virtue
second real question: if i have Sigil Captain and Intangible Virtue out at the same time, are my tokens unaffected by Sigil Captain ?
November 15, 2011 3:43 p.m.