Elbrus and color restrictions
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on Feb. 15, 2012, 8:20 a.m. by Deck_Master
Hey guys.
Since its an artifact, would be a nice add to almost all Commander decks. But I was wondering, since it's other half (Withengar Unbound) is black, would it be possible to use this card in a deck whose commander is not black, or it would contradict restrictions rule?
Epochalyptik says... #3
@jkarnes: One of those rules is that color identity is determined by all mana symbols in a card's cost and text box, and also the color indicator if it's a flip card. Since Withengar Unbound's color indicator is black, its color identity is black. Therefore, it may only be played in EDH decks with black in their general's colors.
February 15, 2012 9:28 a.m.
OmegaSerris says... #4
No, Commander Rules (more specifically, color identity) have been changed with the release of Innistrad and Double Sided Flip (DSF) cards. It now included the 'color indicator' on the back side before the Type line.
903.4c The back face of a double-faced card (see rule 711) is included when determining a card's color identity.
February 15, 2012 9:38 a.m.
Ah. I was under the impression that the Wizard's development team stole... I mean used... the color definition rules from the EDH community.
My mistake!
February 15, 2012 10:20 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
WotC formally recognizes the Commander format as being started and maintained by a third-party organization. They have to officially print some of the rules, since they are now involved with the format, but each party acknowledges the other and its contributions.
February 15, 2012 10:25 a.m.
The_Murderauder says... #7
Yup. This came up the other day when I guy in my playgroup used in an Edric, Spymaster of Trest deck. The color indicator for both sides is indeed used to determine color identity.
jkarnes says... #2
It has no mana symbol on it. Read the Commander Rules.
February 15, 2012 9:20 a.m.