do you think people would hate me for playing this deck at an EDH tournament.
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on Dec. 19, 2011, 1:23 p.m. by narutozach
this is the deck that i have come up with, -- http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/i-really-am-a-spymaster/ --please look at it. i have combo's in there that go along with card:Ashnod's Altar and Words of Wilding .i am not using any expensive tutors to get them out, and my general should give my opponents the ability to draw through a lot of there deck to find answers. i really want to bring this deck to a tournament, but i dont want to get everyone angry if i happen to get the combo or combo's out. give your advice, and if you think i should take out the combo piece's, what should i do with the deck to make i really fun to play with.
KorApprentice says... #3
deck:i-really-am-a-spymaster
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December 19, 2011 1:33 p.m.
im not sure i understand either. what is it specifically that you think people will hate and why do you care?
also you had at least 1 non UG color identity land in there when i looked so double check your list before you go
December 19, 2011 2:33 p.m.
narutozach says... #5
i was just thinking that people play EDH to have a good time, and that they wouldn't have it if i could just go and win with some crazy combo.
December 19, 2011 2:37 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
Casual EDH is for a "good time." Tournament EDH is about whose deck can successfully combo out and roll face the fastest. If you want to win an EDH tourney, you need to design a deck that can do that. Just be aware that a competition deck will be different from a casual one in much the same way manner as in 60-card.
December 19, 2011 3:01 p.m.
see this keeps coming up, people hating on combos, why is losing to the combat phase more fun? i can understand if the combo is just tedious, like Birds of Paradise Instill Energy Kismet Stasis but some of the comments on this site are ridiculous. if someone gives you a hard time over how you won, the problem is them not you. unless you cheated.. then it is you.. but thats a tangent lol
December 19, 2011 3:28 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #8
It has to do with the way the loss happens. I'd rather lose to a combat phase after actually getting to interact with my opponent(s) the whole game and playing a fun game of Magic than lose to a combo player who did nothing but sit there until the deck went off.
The majority of EDH players are casual, and they want to play a game where they do more than sit around waiting for someone to win the race to the infinite combo. That's not interactive, and partly because of that its not fun.
stryder, you clearly have a different philosophy, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, your point is more along the lines of something I would expect from that guy that plays one game, wins immediately, then walks away. You won, but that's not really what a lot of players care about. They play for the experience of the game, not the victory. Unless you're playing in a tourney or have a complex, winning a card game means very little.
December 19, 2011 3:38 p.m.
winning a hobby game does mean very little, yet you seem very concerned that you wont be winning enough. and i do have a diferent philosophy on playing magic, i dont tell people what they should play/enjoy. everyone enjoys diferent things about magic, not everyone plays the same color for example. yet no one has a thread about deriding what color someone plays, but people will criticize what phase someone prefers or how long they expect the game to last. you also make some very subjective evaluations, such that my goal is winning, or that i do not interact with the people i play with. i also find it amusing you would imply i have a complex when it is the community of "casual players" giving the poster of this thread a complex.the kid that started this thread has a spiffy new spy master but is afraid to play his new deck because the magic police will give him a hard time. how ridiculous is thati think i have made a mistake coming to this site and i apologize for the inconvenience
December 19, 2011 4:25 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #10
I am not implying that you have a complex, nobody is out to chastise you for voicing a different opinion, I do not worry that I won't be winning enough, and nobody accused you of telling them what to think or play. You should not take generalizations and differences personally.
Rather, I am trying to articulate the feelings that I sense in most of the casual EDH players I come across. I do not seek to have their opinions or my own written into the comprehensive rulebook as Magic law. If it appears that I was launching a personal attack on you, then you may have misread.
December 19, 2011 4:39 p.m.
narutozach says... #11
Ok , but look at the rest of my EDH deck, because my whole deck isn't just a stall to get out one of my infinite combo's, it is also about super card draw, and allowing my opponents to it each other for card advantage, while i stock up on creatures and kill them.
let me know what you think of the deck and how i can make it better and more fun.
thats all im asking.
:)
December 19, 2011 7:27 p.m.
Like everyone else has said, when you're playing in a tournament and not just among friends you generally want your deck to be as mean a beast as you can make it. The tournament scene is usually pretty cutthroat, and most people are there to win.
There is a fair bit of talk here on Tapped Out and other EDH forums in regards to what is "fun" or "proper" in EHD, and topics on subjects like combos, tutor effects, and the monetary cost of a card come up a lot. But like Epochalyptik said that's all talk for casual games. The tournament scene is where you go all out and hit an opponent with everything you can.
So will people hate you for playing that deck? I doubt it. It has a fun theme but I think you'll find that it's rather underpowered in comparison to a lot of the other decks you'll be up against in a tournament. Weenie strategies are hard to pull off in EDH due to the high life totals and the large number of board wipe effects, and you don't have enough combos to put all that card draw to the most use. I'm sure that the people here would be willing to offer you all sorts of suggestions for cards that could go into your deck, but your deck will certainly change if you listen to those suggestions. If you like the deck for what it is, a fun theme deck that you designed to be as fair as possible, just keep it as it is but be aware that the people you will be playing against won't be as nice.
December 20, 2011 2:33 a.m.
metalmagic says... #13
I hated playing one of our state judge's $5K EDH decks this past Friday. He pretty much started the game off with Scroll Rack , played a Primeval Titan to go get Reliquary Tower and Bojuka Bog to exile my grave (I was playing Karador, Ghost Chieftain ), then after he had 20 cards in his hand from Recurring Insight , he played an Avenger of Zendikar and got 15 tokens and Mass Polymorph ed into every damn Praetor, a billion other creatures, and a Kozilek, Butcher of Truth . Because of Urabrask the Hidden , it was well over for me and the other two guy playing in the 4-way.
Your deck is nowhere near that bad.
December 20, 2011 2:42 a.m.
For a bit of perspective, these are decks that I might bring to a tournament:
deck:animars-wrath-edh
They have a bunch of combos, tutors, and expensive cards but I would still be hesitant about their chances in an actual tournament.
December 20, 2011 2:44 a.m.
lol that stryder guy is the ultimate troll chill out or burst a blood vessel. my mates Kraaj deck is quite unpleasant to play against due to the insane combos it pulls off but so is my Arcanis the Omnipotent deck so they see little play because they are non interactive like Epoch said it tends to make a game boring even for the person playing the deck. a few combos is never a bad thing specially for a tourney, your opponents will be playing every broken EDH card available to win asap why shouldnt you :-) i also apreciate when a deck keeps to a theme and i purposely do not run some silly things like Magister Sphinx and Serra Ascendant (which i believe is now banned??) but these cards are cheap and in casual i avoid them but you can bet people play them as much as possible in a tourney or worse things!
KorApprentice says... #2
I'm not sure I understand, is this a casual tournament with your friends? Because if not, then you will have many combo's used against you, so it would be a bad idea to remove any combo's from your deck. Tournaments are about winning, people won't care that you have infinite, instant-win, or lockdown combo's in your deck. You should actually add some search to pull out your combo's, you want them to go off early in a tournament.
December 19, 2011 1:32 p.m.