Dimensional Breach Protection
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on Nov. 15, 2017, 12:53 a.m. by chosenone124
Are there any cards that can efficiently protect many of my permanents from the effects of Dimensional Breach?
SteelSentry says... #3
If you can exile your permanents in response, with cards like Ghostway or Eerie Interlude. Teferi's Protection would also work
November 15, 2017 1:13 a.m.
MagicalHacker says... #4
There are a few, which you can find on MagicalHacker - List of All Anti-Board Wipe Cards like Synthetic Destiny and Legion's Initiative.
November 15, 2017 2:07 a.m.
chosenone124 says... #7
Oh I forgot to mention: I'm also the one casting Dimensional Breach
November 16, 2017 8 p.m.
Billgod247 says... #8
Fun thing is to Bojuka Bog your own graveyard then bring Dimensional Breach back from exile later, again and again. At least until someone Strip Mines the Bog then just use another effect to exile your graveyard. More fun when you also can give yourself extra upkeeps to bring back more from exile. I play a 5 color Child of Alara deck built around playing from both my graveyard and from exile. It feels godlike when noone can get rid of anything of mine for long.
May 17, 2018 1:50 p.m.
chosenone124 says... #9
Billgod247, Dimensional Breach only returns cards exiled by itself.
May 18, 2018 6:24 p.m.
Billgod247 says... #10
chosenone124 That is not how it reads The card says "Exile all permanents. For as long as any of those cards remain exiled, at the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player returns one of the exiled cards they own to the battlefield." It does not say "with this card" or "with Dimensional Breach" just simply "they own" instead. The rules for the card on gatherer also do not restrict it as so.
May 19, 2018 8:29 a.m.
I'm pretty sure chosenone124 is correct, and either way the card specifically brings back permanents so you would never be able to re-cast dimensional breach anyway.
May 19, 2018 10:24 a.m.
Billgod247 says... #12
Dimensional Breach does not specify card type of any kind whether the exiled card should be permanent or otherwise nor does it in any way specify which exiled card other than by "one of the exiled cards they own".
May 19, 2018 1:35 p.m.
DankStompy says... #13
Billgod247: Dimensional Breach only returns cards that were exiled by Dimensional Breach
May 19, 2018 1:42 p.m.
Exile all permanents. For as long as any of those cards remain exiled, at the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player returns one of the exiled cards they own to the battlefield.
A Permanent is anything that is cast that stays in play on the battlefield. Permanents exclude Instants and Sorceries. This is because Instants are instantly cast, play their effect and fizzle, and Sorceries must be played at the beginning of the turn and generally last one turn before they fizzle as well. While still employing their effect, these are not called Permanents because they do not stay on the battlefield, per se.
May 19, 2018 1:45 p.m.
DankStompy says... #16
maxon spells only "fizzle" if they don't resolve. sorceries don't have to be cast at the "beginning" of the turn either. they can be cast in the post-combat main phase as well.
May 19, 2018 1:51 p.m.
yeah I just copied and pasted that from some site. I just re read it too and realized that wording is a little wonky, but I was only trying to show how sorceries aren't permanents.
May 19, 2018 1:52 p.m.
Billgod247 says... #18
I realize that yes it does say exile all permanents, however it also REQUIRES a player for as long as any of those permanents are still in exile to on his or her own upkeep to return a CARD they OWN from exile to Play. It does in no way say which card must, should, or could be returned.
May 19, 2018 10:35 p.m.
chosenone124 says... #19
Billgod247 You can't return non-permanents to the battlefield.
May 19, 2018 11:31 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #20
Okay here is the text of the card again:
Exile all permanents. For as long as any of those cards remain exiled, at the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player returns one of the exiled cards they own to the battlefield.
Notice how it says "as long as any of those cards remain exiled". This means that Breach keeps track of what it has exiled. More importantly, it later says "that plater returns one of the exiled they own to the battlefield". Not only did it already define those exiled cards, but it also doesn't tell you to only return permanent cards this way, as opposed to returning cards that can't be put onto the battlefield at all, since only permanent cards are going to be exiled by it.
It can't return sorceries, but it also can't return permanents exiled another way either.
May 20, 2018 12:25 p.m.
chosenone124 says... #21
MagicalHacker it is possible to exile sorceries with it.
They will not return to the battlefield because you cannot return non-permanents to the battlefield
May 20, 2018 6:14 p.m.
Billgod247 says... #22
Dimensional Breach is broken! It does NOT say in any way return one of THOSE cards or one of the cards EXILED WITH DIMENSIONAL BREACH. It does only check that any of the cards exiled with it are still in exile AND ALSO that the card returning to play is from exile and owned by that player.
May 20, 2018 11 p.m.
chosenone124 says... #23
Billgod247 it really doesn't work like you think.
https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/magic-rulings-archives/307498-dimensional-breach
This has been asked on other forums. If you don't trust that site, feel free to ask in the Rules Q&A section and you will receive the exact same answer.
Here's the TLDR
607.2a If an object has an activated or triggered ability printed on it that instructs a player to exile one or more cards and an ability printed on it that refers either to "the exiled cards" or to cards "exiled with [this object]," these abilities are linked. The second ability refers only to cards in the exile zone that were put there as a result of an instruction to exile them in the first ability.
May 21, 2018 2:38 a.m. Edited.
chosenone124 says... #24
Dimensional Breach oracle text:
Exile all permanents. For as long as any of those cards remain exiled, at the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player returns one of the exiled cards they own to the battlefield.
If you read 607.2a, "the exiled cards" refers to cards exiled with Dimensional Breach.
Azdranax says... #2
Teferi's Protection is the only thing that comes to mind...(card won't link for some reason)
November 15, 2017 1:07 a.m.