Atraxa Reprint
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on May 10, 2018, 11:34 a.m. by meatsmith
I don't know if anyone here is pissed off about Atraxa being reprinted, but i certainly am.
Oh, it's not because they will devalue the original card monetarily. That might happen. keyword: "might", as in "doesn't always occur".
And it isn't that the card is going to get popular again... and you're going to see it everywhere, and every shitty EDH player will be running it. That already happens, so... have at it, Hoss. go to town with a garbage Atraxa deck that doesn't work.
my issue is "don't you think it is too soon, WoTC"?
I know that they are a company and companies make money by manufacturing and selling a product of some sort. But good GAWD. do we have to go through this again?
Come on, WoTC... have some respect for yourselves; it ain't 1993 anymore.
DrukenReaps says... #3
So your complaint is that you think it is too soon? The damn card is/was $40.... The deck she comes in is much more if you can find it... This is exactly the kind of thing they need to reprint. Even more so since the card is exclusive to commander you can't crack inexpensive packs to get a copy. I want them to reprint shit like this more, it shouldn't cost $400+ to make a deck...
May 10, 2018 11:55 a.m.
Ignoring the unnecessarily aggressive nature of your second paragraph, I'll post my thoughts on your real question: "don't you think it is too soon, WoTC?"
No, I do not. The purpose of the anthology series is to provide a set of interesting, fun decks with multiple archtypes. They provide a nifty introduction to the format, as well as relatively balanced decks for casual play. As with all premade commander decks, they also provide a good starting point for upgrading.
Atraxa, Praetors' Voice is the perfect Anthology commander. Her ability is interesting and can be utilized in multiple different ways, making her perfect as a starting point.
That she was released about 18 months ago doesn't seem all that important to me. She's a popular card, and seems like a strong option for bringing new players into the Commander format.
May 10, 2018 11:56 a.m.
griffstick you are lucky. That card is a favorite in my area.
May 10, 2018 12:01 p.m.
I have played against Atraxa once. Was easy to beat though.I am a bit disappointed of this years commander anthology. I expected more "good" reprints. Why ghave again? Isn't there another valuable target to reprint like Teferi planeswalker (I'd love to have this card in foil).If Atraxa is 40 dollars that is too much and she needs this reprint. If you have a problem with her just refuse to play against it or pick something that works better against her?!
May 10, 2018 1:04 p.m.
RedUndead40 says... #7
It's been over a year and a half since it was printed, there have been cards reprinted in less time than that.
May 10, 2018 1:12 p.m.
Do we have to? Looks like it. Do we have to see posts everytime someone doesn't agree with a decision WOTC makes? Also yes.
May 10, 2018 1:33 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #9
AlexoBn, "Why ghave again?" Because it's in the Atraxa deck? They don't change decklists in an anthology release, obviously lol
meatsmith, what deck would you have preferred reprinted here? Not including any of the wedge commanders, the mono commanders, or the experience counter ones, since we already have one from each of those.
May 10, 2018 1:43 p.m. Edited.
I would've personally liked to have seen the animar deck reprinted, but I'm actually happy atraxa will be reprinted. The price for that deck was ridiculous considering the precon wasn't even that good.
May 10, 2018 2:46 p.m.
Atraxa's reprinting is for the greater good. That card is $30+ currently and needs to be brought down a few notches. That, and Breed Lethality was the deck to purchase in C16 (Breya coming close).
Having said that, Atraxa does look sweet with that new border. Too bad they're never going to print non-foil versions of these accursed foil-exclusive cards.
May 10, 2018 2:46 p.m.
But Breed Lethality wasn't even that good, it was just a bunch of disorganized +1/+1 synergy. Yeah, it was fun, but Breya or Yidris were monsters out of the box.
May 10, 2018 3:31 p.m.
Breed Lethality is actually alright out of the box, and the upgrade potential is limitless. Theres so many different directions the deck can go in. I already have the original version of the deck and upgrading it was a lot of fun.
May 10, 2018 3:44 p.m.
It was fun, but in my personal opinion it wasn't worth the price.
May 10, 2018 6:27 p.m.
You're right. i was wrong to have an opinion that goes against the collective.
May 10, 2018 8:28 p.m.
MagicalHacker I haven't thought about it. Someone mentioned the Teferi deck, and that one does seem like a good choice, especially since the character is back in the limelight.
May 10, 2018 8:31 p.m.
so what that you can't get her by "crackin packs"... doing that is a faster way to waste money than actualy spending the 40 bucks that it costs to buy the Atraxa, and you have to throw away all the garbage cards that you get by "crackin packs"/buying a precon.
Having expectations of getting something worthwhile in a pack is really foolish.
And i have long thought that the concept of "limited availability" is lost to many people MTG. you cannot all have the best cards. they are not door prizes or passing grades given out to dumb kids during the Bush administration.
Not that Atraxa is one of the best cards, but i made my point.
yah sure reprint the card once in a while. just don't overdo it, and that's all i care about with this issue. 18 months is too soon, and i am not excusing other cards from this opinion either. So just because other cards have been reprinted in shorter spans of time, doesn't mean that my irritation is irrelivant or misplaced. it is silly of WoTC to do that kind of stuff.
May 10, 2018 8:51 p.m.
Dredge4life says... #19
meatsmith Colossal Dreadmaw must really tick you off.
May 11, 2018 6:41 a.m.
MagicalHacker says... #20
Why does it matter how long ago a card being reprinted was last printed? If it's expensive, that's enough to warrant a need for a reprinting imo.
May 11, 2018 7:29 a.m.
There is only one salient issue that you have thus far failed to address. Wizards is a business and needs to make a profit to survive. The secondary market provides no income, so Wizards does not have an economic interest in guaranteeing "limited availability" of cards not on the Reserve List*. Reprinting popular cards is an easy, efficient way for Wizards to turn a profit. After all, they do not need to do the impressive levels of playtesting for reprints that would be required of a newly minted card.
Unless you can provide either a tangible benefit Wizards receives for refusing to reprint the card, or an economic detriment to their printing it, you have failed to meet the burden for proving that it is "too soon" for a reprint. The fact that the timeline irritates you is, to use your word, "irrelevant."
*Reserve list cards are special. Wizards has unequivocally stated "Reserved cards will never be printed again" and individuals have relied upon this promise. If Wizards were to reprint a reserved list card, they would open themselves up to a lawsuit.
May 11, 2018 8:50 a.m.
It was not ever a reserved list card--Mark Rosewater made jokes about not wanting the card reprinted, but there was never an official statement that could reasonably be relied upon. As such, there was never any issue reprinting Mana Drain.
The only cards from Legends that were placed on the initial reserve list were Rares that had not yet been reprinted with a white border--Mana Drain was uncommon.
Wizards has only removed a few cards from the Reserved List, all when it would be fairly insignificant to do so:
Commons and Uncommons from Limited Edition (likely due to strong public support, and the cost/risk of a lawsuit over these cards being negligible)
Feroz's Ban, which was reprinted by mistake and subsequently removed from the reserved list. Seeing as the damage was already done, there was no reason to keep the card reserved.
griffstick says... #2
I've only gone up against 1 atraxa deck 1 time since the printing of atraxa
May 10, 2018 11:38 a.m.