Vesuva or Thespian's Stage?
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Posted on March 3, 2020, 11:03 p.m. by DemonDragonJ
Some of my early EDH decks contain Vesuva, because of how useful that card is; however, after Thespian's Stage was printed, I instead used that card in all of my subsequent EDH decks, but I never replaced Vesuva in my earlier decks, as I did not see a major need to do so.
However, after numerous times in which the versatility of Thespian's Stage has proven itself, I am wondering if I should replace Vesuva with the stage, since being able to repeatedly change the land, depending upon the situation, is undeniably an amazing ability.
What does everyone else say about this? Should I replace Vesuva with Thespian's Stage?
Also if anyone one drops Dark Depths you can copy it have zero ice counters and smack then with a 20/20 creature
March 4, 2020 1:20 a.m. Edited.
You would run both if you had land-based combos like Dark Depths or a Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle strategy. More competitive decks normally don't run either, but in a more casual scene I would rather run Thespian's Stage over Vesuva because (1.) It comes into play untapped which won't disrupt your tempo if you just need a land drop and (2.) it allows you to be more reactive and copy powerful lands as they come out (Gaea's Cradle, Serra's Sanctum, Ancient Tomb, etc.), and (3.) you can change Thespian's target again if an even better target appears. It can also dodge Wasteland by copying a basic land, which is spicy.
March 4, 2020 1:17 p.m. Edited.
DemonDragonJ says... #5
Since everyone here has ruled in favor of Thespian's Stage, I shall put it into my decks that do not yet have it.
March 4, 2020 6:24 p.m.
VladMarkov says... #6
Sometimes I am playing both, as there are moments, that you would like to copy more than one land at once. And there is a funny trick, that when Thespian's Stage is on the battlefield, Vesuva can copy it :)
March 5, 2020 6:26 a.m.
triproberts12 says... #7
Vesuva is definitely the more efficient card overall. The only reason I see to go with Stage is either Dark Depths makes a regular occurrence at your tables or if powerful utility lands come down late enough and there are few enough lands in your deck that Vesuva comes down prematurely every time. Also, the flip side to Dark Depths is that Scapeshift+Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle (why is it not legendary?!)+Vesuva works, but Thespian's Stage does not.
griffstick says... #2
I think Thespian's Stage is better. In a 100 card singleton deck you dont always find what you want to copy it. So being able to play Thespian's Stage as a land drop and keep on tempo till you find the right card to copy is great.
March 3, 2020 11:47 p.m.