Trying to make a competitive Purphoros, God of the Forge deck...
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Posted on June 11, 2016, 6:55 p.m. by MagicalHacker
However, there are so many options for themes and subthemes, so what would lead to the most competitive deck?
- Nontoken creature heavy, utilizing etb's to abuse reanimation, flicker, and making token copies
- Spellslinger to abuse cards that trigger off of, copy, or recur instants/sorceries
- Storm using lots of rituals and ways to refill hands to try to get a huge Empty the Warrens off.
- Artifact heavy to abuse cards that trigger off of, copy, or recur artifacts
- Goblin heavy? That doesn't seem right
- Anti-control, by stopping counterspells, tutors, extra turns, Nonbasic lands, etc.
- Mass land destruction/stax to poke opponents until they die without them being able to stop me
- Pillow fort/stax to prevent getting dealt retaliatory damage
- Infinite mana via Reiterate + ritual producing more than six mana
- Infinite attackers via Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Zealous Conscripts
- Board wipe heavy to neuter opponents
- Double damage effects to speed up everyone's clocks
- Failsafe cards that let me win without my commander by buffing up all my tokens
- Ramp so that I can do stuff more?
- Artifact destruction for value?
Did I miss anything? If not, what combination sets me up the best since there's no way I can fit all that into one deck...
VampireArmy says... #3
Twin Flame and similar effects go infinite with Dualcaster Mage
Grinning Ignus basically says "
: deal 2 damage"
June 11, 2016 9:15 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #4
Thanks for commenting!
- I think Sulfuric Vortex is good enough without the anti-lifegain ability, so is it enough anti-lifegain for the deck, or should I include Leyline of Punishment/Burn at the Stake?
- I was thinking about playing all the 2-drop dorks (like Plague Myr) because they land him on turn three and after he's out, they actually trigger damage.
- Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast are the only ones I know, or should I play Reverberate and Fork too?
- If you like the idea from point 2, then the only other ramp I wanna play is Hedron Archive and Gilded Lotus. Should I play Gauntlet of Might, Mana Flare, or something else? Also, how many wheels should I play? There's Magus of the Wheel, Memory Jar, Reforge the Soul, Wheel of Fate, and Wheel of Fortune. As for tutors, all I know about is Gamble and Imperial Recruiter, because Hoarding Dragon is too slow, right? Basically, of the five wheels and two tutors, which should I run?
- Yeah I'm planning on using Blood Moon, Magus of the Moon, Ruination, and From the Ashes. Could I use Burning Earth too, or is it too slow?
- Kiki-Conscripts sounds like a good plan B.
- At that point, wouldn't I be better off with Earthquake-style board wipes that also hit opponents and can scale up?
- So a plan B of attack after I land an Eldrazi Monument for example isn't good enough when Purphoros gets targeted a lot?
Thanks again for the input!
Holy moly, Dualcaster Mage combos sound perfect! So I'll include him with Heat Shimmer and Twinflame!
Grinning Ignus, Norin the Wary, and a few other cards are just too good to not include regardless of what the deck actually does.
June 11, 2016 10:18 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #5
Then there's Chandra's Spitfire that gets real big real fast
Edit: play Flamekin Harbinger to tutor for it or ignus
June 11, 2016 10:27 p.m. Edited.
Genesis Chamber + Norin the Wary is quite brutal. Impact Tremors is like having another mini Purph.
Goblins pair well with Purphy for the simple fact they are cheap and easily reproduce and those tokens keep your devotion down. Keeping your devotion down is ideal, as an indestructible enchantment is harder to kill than an indestructible creature.
June 12, 2016 2:32 a.m.
Also, if you are going the spellslinging route (which most Purph decks are instant or sorcery heavy as they produce many tokens) then Young Pyromancer or Guttersnipe will serve you well.
June 12, 2016 2:37 a.m.
DaddyRabbit78 says... #8
Blink a creature ripe with ETB like Siege-Gang Commander.
Throw in Gratuitous Violence for double damage.
June 12, 2016 11:32 a.m.
MagicalHacker says... #9
As an example of how difficult this deck is for me to build, here are all the cards I currently have in the deck (I need to cut four from these to get the correct amount):
Hedron Crawler
Iron Myr
Manakin
Millikin
Plague Myr
Burnout
Pyroblast
Red Elemental Blast
Fork
Reverberate
Ruination
From the Ashes
Blood Moon
Magus of the Moon
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
Zealous Conscripts
Twinflame
Heat Shimmer
Dualcaster Mage
Grinning Ignus
Norin the Wary
Flamekin Harbinger
Sulfuric Vortex
Hedron Archive
Gilded Lotus
Wheel of Fortune
Magus of the Wheel
Gamble
Imperial Recruiter
Acidic Soil
Price of Progress
Impact Tremors
Young Pyromancer
Guttersnipe
Chaos Warp
Stranglehold
Beetleback Chief
Dragonmaster Outcast
Emrakul's Hatcher
Goblin Marshal
Goblin Rabblemaster
Krenko, Mob Boss
Mogg War Marshal
Pia and Kiran Nalaar
Rakka Mar
Siege-Gang Commander
Acorn Catapult
Captain's Claws
Helm of Possession
Myr Turbine
Skullclamp
Snake Basket
Throne of Empires
Trading Post
Devastating Summons
Devil's Playground
Dragon Fodder
Firecat Blitz
Goblin Offensive
Goblin Rally
Hordeling Outburst
Krenko's Command
Tempt with Vengeance
Thatcher Revolt
Goblin Assault
Chandra, Flamecaller
All the cards I cut and still think could be good in the deck:
Pyromancer's Goggles
Stoneshaker Shaman
Defense Grid
Mana Cache
Price of Glory
Mana Web
Leyline of Punishment
Burn at the Stake
Wheel of Fate
Memory Jar
Reforge the Soul
Hoarding Dragon
Goblin Matron
Goblin Recruiter
Godo, Bandit Warlord
Blade of Selves
Conjurer's Closet
Minion Reflector
Soul Foundry
Mimic Vat
Felhide Spiritbinder
Flamerush Rider
Flameshadow Conjuring
Splinter Twin
Sword of Light and Shadow
Elemental Mastery
Burning Earth
Earthquake
Fault Line
Molten Disaster
Rolling Earthquake
Eldrazi Monument
Chandra's Spitfire
Genesis Chamber
Chancellor of the Forge
Charmbreaker Devils
Embermaw Hellion
Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs
Smoke
Smokestack
Meekstone
Static Orb
Silent Arbiter
Caverns of Despair
Crawlspace
Ensnaring Bridge
Forcefield
Glacial Chasm
Myr Battlesphere
Rapacious One
Worn Powerstone
Descent of Dragons
Shrine of Loyal Legions
Mogg Infestation
Skittering Invasion
Goblinslide
Tooth and Claw
Gratuitous Violence
Furnace of Rath
Dictate of the Twin Gods
Heartless Hidetsugu
June 12, 2016 3:53 p.m.
mass land destruction such as jokuklhaups and wildfire will help leave the game in your favor. furnace of rath helps you push and it gives you 3 devotion also the dude dorks die to board wipes you might want to consider darksteel ingot and the like to have mana that survives wiping the board so you just always stay ahead. keeping your general on the board is the biggest advantage when you clear the board otherwise. also hammer of purphoros is pretty good with him as well.
Coinman1863 says... #2
So being the local cEDH guru here is my 2 cents on being competitive:
The count to 20 plan is one of the best plans out there. People use their life as a resource heavily in cEDH, so count to 20 becomes count to 15 or less quite often. Also life gain basically does not exist in the format.
Land Purph ASAP. He is near impossible to be rid of in cEDH, the only regular way to off him is Cyclonic Rift or counterspells.
Play all the Red Elemental Blast effects you can, stops them from countering your stuff.
Mana rocks are your friends, as well as Wheel of Fortune, Gamble ETC.
Don't be afraid to Ruination, unless you are playing against Yisan, this will do wonders.
Kiki-Concripts is a really good second wincon so you will want that.
Pyroclasm/Volcanic Fallout effects are a lot better than you think. There are lots of small dudes which see play and can be easily offed.
You don't have to attack to win, let Purph do the work.
Hope this helps!
June 11, 2016 8:49 p.m.