Time to Sever the Chain; Help for some decks needed...

Commander Deck Help forum

Posted on Aug. 6, 2019, 12:07 p.m. by BMHKain

(I apologize if I'm not being as concise as people want me to recently, but I'm not making multiple threads at one time; just one for each deck in development.)

Outside of some other decks in the works, I figured the best I can do is show what's still in the works; & explain to the best of my abilities what they need...


Bruce & Tana, Weaponized Re-Quips

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

SCORE: 1 | 6 COMMENTS | 134 VIEWS


(NOTE: The Previous Deck is complete. It no longer needs the obligation to stay until much needed.)

Naya. The home Shard of Ajani Goldmane & his dead (But frankly badass.) Brother Jazal Goldmane . It's also the Shard w/ the worst use of Artifacts & Enchantments; Destroying all of them; at least Kresh the Bloodbraided of the nearby Shard of Jund has a Weapon that at least is an Equipment . Speaking of Equips, This is meant to be a Equipment Matters Voltron/GoLion deck running Partners: An Elf who grows plants by feeding them off the Blood of Mass Murder & A Dwarf (Not even a Human) resembling those Fatties in some European country I don't remember the name. For this, I'll worry about the Cuts this time. What I want is too find adds in & that work great in Equip-based GoLion. already has a lot of stuff & is Commander-in-Chief Obvious Material, so make sure you can find cards exclusive to & that actually helps Artifacts & Enchantments rather than murdering them. Or, at least, help a Voltron Deck very well. That all you have to do. I'LL HANDLE THE CUTS; I mean, Naya is the worst color identity to deal w/ Equip-matters Voltron that requires ZERO Auras (Do I have to BOLD that?!). Finally, as a confession; I'm an Anti-Meta; someone who would break all MTG Card Making Rulings just to show you can make a card that breaks the rules of the colors used & NOT go Mana Bleed in the Slightest.

But I digress like a Madman. As WotC won't take a chance for even an Elf that promotes Impurity & Freedom of Expression; not a Nature Restricted Ajin (Demi-Human). But I'll just reiterate back to what I was trying to say: I'll do the cuts after you guys find suggestions for Equip-centric Voltron Decks in and/or . I got under control. It's now all you. Good Luck.

(I'm truly sorry for going all over the place on this; I tried to be consistent & to the point, & it went haywire...)

UPDATE: Decided for myself that my other crap is worthy of this thread in spite of them having their own...


Impure Fire of Hou-ou that levels Gods

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

SCORE: 1 | 12 COMMENTS | 166 VIEWS


Pick on Mono- Burn as much as you wish. I want this deck to go on one speed; SoL (We got Heat Ray , which is a literal Laser, & Storm Fleet Swashbuckler is evidence that WotC IS just fine w/ guns in MTG despite their objection; this one's using a Flintlock; what? Bolt to the eye meant lightning? Screw that!) This deck has only one option: Genocidal Burn. Using powerful Burn spells as well as powerful Copy Spells; & Mana Doublers among other things, to burn any to a crisp. Each Point of Damage even makes more mana for it's Commander: Neheb, the Eternal . A legitimate beast of a soldier, the more Burn you deal, the more mana you get to use even more. The only restriction I have for this deck is that I want it to break out of a crowd of otherwise, superior deck archetypes pushed to a limit beyond theirs. Using cards that help w/ Red Sources, & even try & find some Draw-Go that was forced out of the deck. Any ideas for this is great. But I'd also like some other ideas for other Burn ideas. After that; I'll commence the announcement of what should be cut. But just imagine a Minotaur burning you for blood sport. I wish you luck for what this deck needs; if Rummaging won't help, how about Artifact Draw? :)


Xantcha: America Incarnate; of another Timeline...

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

SCORE: 1 | 4 COMMENTS | 64 VIEWS


ONE WORD: Triskaidekaphobia . This deck needs one thing; 13 cards alleviated from to the legitimate 100 card standard. Despite that, no interest has been elicited from those who can make this kind of deck. If Caerwyn is correct about the Competitive Meter; stated that even at 100% Competitive is actually very weak, & that this is 79% Casual being a monster to deal with; something seems off with this notion; & it's not that isn't in CMDR 2019 (We got the Have Lands, & Cycle Duals in these precons, but because Orzhov has no influence here; printing of enemy colored Have Lands & Cycle Duals is impossible.)… But even the senior staff doesn't seem to want to address this issue; but what does More Casual, More Competitive, & Feedback each suppose to do? Nobody answered this question ever since the first time I asked. But I digress. All this deck needs is 13 cards to cut. & someone of senior staff to address the Meter issues because I doubt Beakman has an answer.

Beakman: Answer: We don't know!

He really did answer some questions w/ this response. Why did I watch something as bad as Captain Planet instead? This is easily the better show.

But 13. Only thirteen cuts are needed here in a Politically Friendly & Unconventional Politics Matter Deck. After that, Triskaidekaphobia will die. Good Luck. ^_^


Kadena, Naga Successor of Ixidor's Death

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

SCORE: 1 | 1 COMMENT | 94 VIEWS


Even the Unknown needs help as well. Focusing on the Morph cards, as well as Morph abilities like Megamorph & Manifest (I think the latter is one true...), this deck is made to make discounts as Morph Sides for free, & easily draw-go's like mad. W/ a lot of awesome Morphs in there, & support for the CMDR & the Morphs as well, even stuff like Krosan Grip can be countered for reason I forgot. (Really. I actually forgot. :/) Such H4X are literally at your potential; turning over Morphs for free, discounts to make Morph Cards cast , & is a beast of a deck when your opponents can't look underneath either. Such mercy though, is based upon one thing; the cards I cut myself & added to the Maybeboard as a "Hotseat"; a category I nicknamed for cards that can return to the deck in exchange for another of the 99's Stead. If the card is deemed unworthy to stay, it leaves the Hotseat no longer allowed to enter the deck. Basically that's how it works. But what would you keep to cut? What would you cut in general? What would you replace? How would you make this concept of a TRUE Morph CMDR Deck any better? It's up to you; because the Hotseat demanded so.



Yep, Pirate Tribal, but I'd like some improvements where Ol' Salty Brass was inept at achieving since the Ixalan Block; Even now. It seems when this is used, Pirates seem to benefit from Sheer Aggro; & can benefit from Explore effects, & Treasures. Revel in Riches is one wincon here, but this deck has several in mind, & has several H4X'd cards that can do stuff like Time Control Timestream Navigator , Pox Effects Dire Fleet Ravager , even the idea of Aggro meets Ramp makes me think; (WHAT THE HELL HAS EVERYONE HAVE AGAINST PIRATES!?) Raid & Explore Effects are great here, but the individual abilities of Pirates are where they shine. Suggestions for replacements for the Hotseat, & any better ideas for the deck in general are welcome here.

Q&A: Why did you include all these decks in one topic at one time? Do you worry nobody wants to even do one of them?

I included all 5 decks needing help so far so that someone can just do one at a time, then work on the next when needed. Goal? To get all these decks reformed so I can get to my next two projects before I work on an "ADAM RUINS EVERYTHING" themed Vorthos/Melvin Deck based on actual problems w/ MTG as a whole. So why not call that deck "ADAM RUINS MTG". The question now is, What colors would fit Ol' Adam Conover? I-I dunno. I use 5 color as a base, & work my way there.

Also, a cEDH Boros Deck is still in the works, & I'd rather I have an actual Boros Player in the subformat help me out on that; Such people I was w/ before I doubt they were actual cEDH Players, but I'll work on the deck later on; eventually of course. Oh, & I didn't finish THE RED PILL for information purposes yet. I'm on a point regarding the Honey Badgers. I hope this is good enough for progress...

That said, I'll update this is oppose to making individual threads that overfill the forum topics w/ my name etched on it. If this isn't a good idea, I wish not to be right.

Thanks for the help.

TypicalTimmy says... #2

Now I'm actually interested. Is there really such a thing as Boros cEDH? Could you link me the deck? I'd love to take a look at it.

As for Tuvasa, I happen to have one on here. I'm on the road now, but I'll take a look at yours once I get home.

August 6, 2019 4:53 p.m.

Joe_Ken_ says... #3

I would be interested in a Cedh Boros deck. I think that they can get pretty tuned and slightly geared towards a strong play group, which is where I like to think mine are at but I’d like to see a competitive level one.

August 6, 2019 11:06 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #4

Red and white both have strong isolated hate. Both also have decently costed draw spells.

There are angels and dragons you can build around, giving you board advantage.

White loves to interact against opponents during combat, such as destroying attacking creatures or pinning them down with enchantments.

Red loves to attack relentlessly using doublestrike, trample, +3/+0, and additional combat phases.

I think it could be a top-tier build for LGS groups, but I don't think it would be on competitive levels as it essentially boils down to an average mid-range / aggro deck, which tend to play slow and give too much room for adverse interactions.

I would suggest you run Iroas, God of Victory as added protection for your creatures since they want to attack every chance they get.

August 6, 2019 11:26 p.m. Edited.

Joe_Ken_ says... #5

Here is my angel tribal Boros deck. I think it can be better, but I have a hard time making changes to it.

Aurelia's Angelic crusade

August 6, 2019 11:42 p.m.

BMHKain says... #6

@TypicalTimmy & Joe_Ken_: I'll be waiting until then. As for cEDH Boros; the decklist is a mess, & isn't solely Aggro oriented. Even Grindstone + Painter's Servant is an awesome Wincon after the Scarecrow got unbanned. I'll work on it another time; but if you want to screw w/ the mess I got; note that I didn't want this deck to be just Stax/Prison; I also wanted to incorporate some other elements in addition. I hope you all can understand at least this...

...Otherwise, I'm not showing the current messy slate until all do. & I am still thinking of what CMDR to use; maybe the new Gerrard, Weatherlight Hero ? If so, Rest in Peace goes Bai-Bai...

August 7, 2019 10:15 a.m.

BMHKain says... #7

Actually, I already have immense amounts of cards over for at least 3 decks alone at minimum (Not counting the cEDH Boros Deck from before.). They are:


Impure Fire of Hou-ou that levels Gods

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

SCORE: 1 | 6 COMMENTS | 126 VIEWS




&


War? or Peace? A battle between 2 Bant Legends

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

SCORE: 1 | 4 COMMENTS | 95 VIEWS


(Note: The Latter concept has much since changed. I'll rename/repost the deck once the decklist amount is locked in at 100 exactly; from there, no more adds/cuts until further update is needed. Same for all my Decks.)

I dun suppose any of you have any ideas for cuts for any of them? I hope to revise their Deck Descriptions soon...

August 7, 2019 10:31 a.m.

enpc says... #8

TypicalTimmy: I put together an Aurelia, the Warleader "cEDH" list a little while ago. It's a bit out of date (I just made a few quick updates however I'm sure there are more I can make) and while it's not considered a cEDH strategy and Aurelia isn't a cEDH commandeer, the list is designed to work in the cEDH meta more than in a big, dumb, pub-stompy meta.


Bed Hair: cEDH Edition

Commander / EDH* enpc

SCORE: 5 | 8 COMMENTS | 461 VIEWS | IN 4 FOLDERS


Mind you, Feather, the Redeemed is an interesting choice for cEDH as she gives you a way to turn cantrips into more reliable card advantage.

I alos have seen Akiri, Line-Slinger + Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder stax lists (with Akiri voltron being the primary win condition) which BMHKain has a list for.

August 8, 2019 12:05 a.m.

BMHKain says... #9

@enpc: The original version of my cEDH Boros Deck has been outlived, & outclassed by more recent decklists. I actually have since been trying to reinvent what Boros shouldn't normally do. I mean, Grindstone + Painter's Servant is in my current hodgepodge of a list, & I've been trying to find a way to reuse Instants & Sorceries w/o Feather, the Redeemed (Why can't I do the same for my other creatures?!). Tier 3 for her, yes. But, when one of your best strategems include Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker , & Village Bell-Ringer , & trying to get as close to 2.00 Deck CMC as possible, I actually want to use Gerrard, Weatherlight Hero as my CMDR; but as everyone seems to keep saying "You can do one, but not the other" (This is about the Command Zone.), I ultimately question why he is made so you can retrieve your "After-Wrath" victims, but keep Gerrard in exile no matter what. I'm actually thinking of removing Rest in Peace for this. Bad idea, yes, but how else can I get my stuff back?

If you're following me; & trust me, you're struggling on that; I didn't want my latest version of cEDH Boros to be solely Stax/Prison, or even Voltron (GoLion is a much better JP Name Origin anyway.); I actually want to do more also; but one question eludes those I ask away from me: How good is Eldrazi Displacer here? Dockside Extortionist is amazing; far better than even Wily Goblin ; most decks usually don't rely on noncommander creatures that much anyway. Even if not so, there is still a good chance you're getting some booty (N-no! Not THAT booty! Legitimate treasure!) even if one.

So, enpc, I apologize for this comment for various reasons; but it's about the situation of my cEDH Boros deck anyway. But let's get back on topic on what needs cutting & what needs to stay; Partner Naya Equip Matters Voltron (GoLion. What's wrong w/ having that name localized? You'd still get away w/ it anyway...) will be cut by me. Then I'll begin, well... I wish I could say it; let's just say it is a parody of a f- "IT'S MORPHIN' TIME"; except, it's not Power Rangers. One reason against me to have my chain severed. Can you name any others? I'd say the same thing too: "I failed."

I'd like to ask someone about how to beat the best of cEDH-Type Tier 3 & more; but nobody is telling me the best of each Tier; Tier 1 needs no question, but tiers 2 & 3 (The Latter has Feather, the Redeemed .) are another story... I really want to build my way up... I'd ask those of that tierlist, but they probably just want Decklists anyway, & no discussion of otherwise...

August 8, 2019 11:13 a.m.

BMHKain says... #10

BMH RUINS BUMPING (& cheddar...)

Progress Log: I added some other ideas for this deck as well, but as it is, I want this to be a true Equip-Matters Voltron Deck; pathetic Tana's Saprolings are even involved; be it for chump blocks, Skullclamp Draws, etc. Tana, the Bloodsower really is the Lead between her & Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder ; & her colors are the Worst in Artifact based Voltron. While I found more Mana Dorks, I really can't just afford to have a Token subtheme; after all, I'm making a Pirate Tribal Deck that is meant to break the Status Quo of MTG. Also, since I recently pulled out a Pashalik Mons from a booster pack, God be Damned IF I even make a Goblin Tribal Deck with him as the lead.

But, bottom line, my mind is on this deck. I'll see what else I can add since nobody seems to wish to help. "Am I doing better myself?" is what I'm asking you about; as I also don't want to do a burn subtheme either (Again, Saprolings.). & to think a Mana Dork deals Damage by making mana... Any suggestions before I cut this on my own? What do you think doesn't fit in? Opinions would be great by now... Any you have, please?

August 11, 2019 2:31 p.m.

BMHKain says... #11

BUMP LIKE A HURRICANE, OR I FORCE YOU TO LISTEN TO NEIL YOUNG.

(Nah, not really, although he did a song about Hurricanes better than them Scorpions; & some of their works are better than Rock you like a Hurricane anyway...)

After starting 2 new decks w/ more on the way, I have seen no progress for help on any of the ones seen here. I mean, all that is needed for my Xantcha, Sleeper Agent deck is 13 cuts. Nothing more. I also want to know how to make a Tana, the Bloodsower + Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder Partner Equipment Matters Voltron/GoLion Deck w/o a HUGE dependence of Tokens over Equipment; I'd like to focus more on Voltron/GoLion than even the Creation of a Saproling Army; Cathars' Crusade is GENOCIDE enough! I just want Voltron, not "Saproling Tokens" Matter to a fault that they make this GoLion have Mice Using trash that is supplied by someone who's GoLion Unit isn't Pink like her suit (Her Lion is Blue; so, why no Blue Paladin suit for her?), & is no Katie Holmes/Hiroshi Suzuishi (Yep, using both EN/JP names in case those still care.) anyway (Sorry, but she kicks more ass than the Prin-Prin replacing a dead man anyway.). So, I previously said find what is needed for this; but I never intended this to be a Sapro-Token Subtheme at all. I actually wanted to refrain from that! But since Ol' Tana simply does that, I've a change of plans. Since Tana make sapros when damaging the opponent, I ask: Is this truly necessary for a Voltron/GoLion Deck that "Doesn't" need it?

Finally, the hardest of the 3: Neheb, the Eternal Burn. As Wild Guess , Tormenting Voice & Cathartic Reunion are all cut, I still need cuts, yes, but I also want ways to do Card Advantage in Mono-. That said, Artifice seems to be the only way to do this. Once we're done w/ that, I'd actually like an effort to actually make cuts. So, any ideas for Artifact Draw, & separate cuts? Ol' Kaite Holmes would be ashamed of you for just being a bigger idiot than her an underdog of a Genius. The Nickname "Pidge" only makes her a bigger badass; I, mean, she won team Voltron a DEATH BATTLE between her & the other Paladins against the Season 1 Era Mighty Morphin Power Rangers & their Dino Megazord (JP Equivalent? The 5 Zyurangers & DaiZyuJin.) Don't ask me again about all that, I'm sick of that. Anyways, Artifact Draw is great here, as well as Doublers, Copyspells, even Burn w/ lasting impact & either stays on the field; or does a lot. lastly on the subject; Vedalken Orrery & Dark Sphere Stay; NO EXCEPTIONS, OR REFUGE. Vedalken Orrery gives everything but your lands Flash, & Dark Sphere can save you in a pinch.

(sigh...)

So, that's what I'd like help for such a situation. I'll leave that matter of these kinds to you now. & I apologize for all those Voltron/GoLion references just from the Deck Type alone. The chain has been severed.

August 13, 2019 11:37 a.m.

BMHKain says... #12

(Since Bumping is a pathetic thing to do now, I'll simplify my last post to make more sense...)

I'll just, mention what I'd like to be Added/Chopped for the following decks, & I'll end it there.

Xantcha Unorthodox Political Matters : Just 13 cuts. That's all; no strings attatched.

Partners Equipment Matters Voltron/GoLion : I've been adding like mad, but ultimately found an ability ol' Tana can use. She can make Saproling Tokens (Why can't we implement Card Art for Tokens & Emblems?) equal to the damage dealt. I actually asked this to Caerwyn, &... no response on Discord. Is having Saps good in Voltron, or does it add for a meaningless Token Subtheme I don't want? &, any progress on the whole Equip Matters friendly , & only stuff? I've been asking for while now, no response there either. I'll do the cuts after when the slate is ready.

Neheb, the Eternal Burn Matters That Immolates Status Quo Concept : Yep, a burn deck. Basically what this deck needs before is the one thing it lost already: Card draw. Stuff that only applies to you, is an artifact, & is DAMN good; stuff like Key to the City is one of those cards. Anything similar that is good, & only applies to this deck's user is the requirements needed. While this deck has a lot of Mana Doubling, & Copy Spells, outside of Card Draw, there are two things this deck is missing: Mana Ramp, & actual Burn Cards that can do a BIG hit, or affect an opponent w/o needing to target them outside of the Arcane Lighthouse & Detection Tower removing those w/ Shroud, & Hexproof (Creatures.) & Hexproof for your opponents. Also, Vedalken Orrery & Dark Sphere still stay unless you can find a better card w/ the same ability as the Orrery in Mono-.

Yep, that's really all I wanted in the first place. I dunno how to simplify this post, so I suppose you can understand this one this time? Thank you in advance...

August 14, 2019 10:46 a.m.

Caerwyn says... #13

I did answer you question - both several months ago when you were trying to figure out what would make a good Naya commander and when asked again. Voltron is a very fragile strategy, and suffers from being very vulnerable to wider strategies (since you’re focusing on one creature rather than a wide board) and to removal (since you’re left with little if your Voltron gets removed.

The saprolings mitigate this some by providing chump blockers against wide strategies, and blockers for you to use while trying to recover from removal.

The fact she also has natural trample is helpful in Voltron, since it makes it easier to punch through Commander damage.

August 14, 2019 10:57 a.m.

BMHKain says... #14

@Caerwyn: Huh... Well, very well then. The Sapro-Token Subtheme stays I guess. As for you responding, I was referring to the most recent time; though I obviously don't need to ask you on this notion again. I'll see what I can do about thems Saps; then I'll get to cutting. How many times have I apologized while even referencing anything even now? I'll try & leave it alone for now, though I have plans already after Post-Release Mayael the Anima … I mentioned it once; & it should be enough for now... But thanks again; even if the Chain got vaporized...

August 14, 2019 11:11 a.m.

Caerwyn says... #15

I did answer the most recent time as well.

August 14, 2019 11:22 a.m.

BMHKain says... #16

Okay; just asking to be sure as I was asleep at the time. For now, though, I've a Morph Deck to be a monster at... Then I'll handle the Sap-Thing. Quite a lot to do when that one deck one wanted to do first is Yarok, the Desecrated was supposed to be first; when it might be after Post-Throne of Eldraine Release Mayael...

August 14, 2019 11:31 a.m.

BMHKain says... #17

I BUMP FOR MY OWN PENANCE.

Adding another deck on here; & it has one heck of a Hotseat. What Stays? What's Cut? & What Replaces?

I'll post it right away as I've been through enough...

August 15, 2019 2:15 p.m.

BMHKain says... #18

(It's not even bump day.)

(Cool it punk.)

Situation Notations; All F---ed Up.

Nearly all decks have a Hotseat for the Maybeboard. Besides Xantcha, Sleeper Agent . All that's needed there is 13 cuts, & it should be good. As for the rest of the Hotseat Sitters, I'll explain why each is on there:


Bruce & Tana, Weaponized Re-Quips

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

SCORE: 1 | 6 COMMENTS | 127 VIEWS


This needs no Hotlist; I actually had to contact Caerwyn for what to do about sacing the Saprolings Tana, the Bloodsower makes after damage calculation. Ironically, he threw in a Gatherer Results page; & I forgot how he did it now. CRAP. This one's fine for now...


Impure Fire of Hou-ou that levels Gods

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

SCORE: 1 | 12 COMMENTS | 166 VIEWS


The Hotlist here is incomplete; I'll have to let the fate of the rest to you. In addition to this though, I'll be finding Artifact Draw that might be good here; but it's not easy. Either I loot, or I have to compromise this deck w/ huge costed stuff; or Tomes (Which all suck.). That said, what deserves the BURN?


Xantcha: America Incarnate; of another Timeline...

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

SCORE: 1 | 4 COMMENTS | 62 VIEWS


One requirement only, & has no need for a Hotseat: JUST CUT 13 DAMN CARDS! Is that hard enough to do?!


Kadena, Naga Successor of Ixidor's Death

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

SCORE: 1 | 1 COMMENT | 88 VIEWS


With one of the best I can currently comprehend, Kadena & her Morphs' real problem for this Hotseat is whether of not such things should stay in the decklist. Some might actually do, others probably don't fit here. That said, I'm wondering what could work in a deck w/ the potential to make Morphs free; as in (Mega)Morph/Manifest . That said, The creatures in the Hotseat do include some great stuff I want to return to this deck; but how is this possible when even the Signets, other artifice, & every enchantment has a positive for each? It will be a tough goal for this Hotseat, but I think I can do this; hopefully w/ you...

&...



Yep, Pirate Tribal; & I chose that name to see how much ferocity someone like Beckett Brass Really IS. Problem one is easy though; "it Explores". "Reveal the top card of your library. Put that card into your hand if it's a land. Otherwise, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature, then put the card back or put it into your graveyard."

Several cards in the Hotseat have this ability, & I actually cut them for the Hotseat! I also wanted to do some Time H4X via Timestream Navigator , but using her...

...Is the same as everyone wanting to kill her chances back onto the deck. Even Angrath, Minotaur Pirate would be a Bad idea here in Pirate Tribal. But what are your opinions? What should stay, & what deserves their Buttcheeks cut, & forced to wear it?

Now it's all up to you; besides Tana & Bruce; I'd like that same link from earlier by Caerwyn please. I hope you don't mind.

Thanks for the help, if any.

August 16, 2019 11:41 a.m.

Caerwyn says... #19

Just to walk you through how I did the Gatherer search:

Start by going to the Gatherer's Advanced Search: Here.

Then I used the following constraints:

Rules Text: Or: "sacrifice a creature" "sacrifice a saproling" "sacrifice a permanent" (the quotes are important, since they limit the search to those exact phrases)

Colors: Or: Red White Green Colorless

More Color Options: Exclude unselected Terms

Types: Or: Creature Enchantment Artifact

Using those search perameters, we are getting every permanent in Naya colores that allow you to sacrifice saprolings for value.

Here is the link for that search.

August 16, 2019 1:29 p.m.

BMHKain says... #20

@Caerwyn: Already found 11 ideas to put in. Each w/ their own purpose of sacking. I suppose the fact I can't find something to Draw a card Via Saccing a Sap means I guess Utopia Mycon should be cut as mana regardless? What would be good here?:

Idol of Oblivion ?

Trading Post ?

Carnage Altar ?

Or is Fungal Plots fine?

Only after this will I feel ready to end this debate of Naya...

August 16, 2019 2:29 p.m.

BMHKain says... #21

I'm bumping with myself, but nobody says "Oh Oh."

@Caerwyn: Remember that truly stupid Idea I never thought was that in the first place? Well, it did get reslugged under a new name: "Sevinne, The Embryo Killing Space-Time Catastrophe". Whatever that deck is made of for overall power, I'll have to think outside the box for her. That said, I mentioned the Hotseat members of such a Naya Equipment Voltron Deck; but I wanted to know what does deserve a place in somehow. I guess you're already saying Lich's Tomb means nothing here; but what about the rest? You're thoughts before I force an Elf that feeds her crops with blood, & a Herder straight out of Lorwyn/Shadowmoor even though the Ally Type is all Zendikar though lots of self butchering on the way to 100 cards? I'm rather interested TBH...

Fast fact: The "Embryo" part of that name actually implies a BlazBlue Terminology; essentially a crystallization of the Aoi/Blue, or Azure in the Localizations made from over Ten Thousands Souls creating this monster. It's power is just insane; bypassing Reason, among other things, I wanted to choose this name as I actually have some ideas for such a Jeskai Way Commander Nobody is using...

I'll reiterate once more; Out of the Hotseat for such decks, what would you keep, & what to remove for that easy 100 cards? I' already trying to think of a good name for Yarok, the Desecrated ; but the name has to be all Kanji. I have "の葬送"/Dirge of... & that's it. I'm considering "終焉"/Finale, but I also wanted a name in which it can strike infinity itself; Basically Outerverse-Level Power, which includes infinite Hyperverses, each one with infinite Multiverses, each one from there, infinite Universes; one of which we live in, we don't have enough info to show what it is in it's entirety.

Basically, if you know MARVEL, we're Dealing With The One Above All (or TOAA since we are all lazy as crap.) level power. Just one appropriate set of Kanji should be good enough; considering "Their?" power has potential Outerverse-Level Power. The translation thus far is Finale/Demise (some term for "of".) (Some Word about Outerversal-Level Destruction)'s Dirge; 終焉の?の葬送, I think the term is so far? I'm probably out of my head for this, but the idea of ONE Multiverse means nothing; just that Science & History lied to us every single time. But I just want one term for Outerversal Destruction w/ its own Kanji. I hope this helps; Yarok will have such a Deckname as it is.

After all, Lament of Bala Ged (An area of Zendikar) stanza 1 briefly mentions this monster. There are 3 Stanzas so far I can recall; & Yarok is the center of this; might as well mention all three while I'm devising this...

Apologies for the long post, but I can't seem to find a term for Systematic Outerversal Genocide; much less find a simple way to explain the whole Outerverse Theorum thing... Any ideas? In the Meanwhile, maybe you could lessen the Hotseat for some of the other decks as well? I still need 100 for all those too you know...

This post is at an end.

August 17, 2019 10:08 a.m.

BMHKain says... #22

I BUMP BECAUSE I NOW NEED TO OPPOSE LIERARY ORIGIN, BAKA YAROU!

After hell on earth to think of a name for my Yarok, the Desecrated , I got one:

無限大虐殺の終焉の哀詩

("The Elegy of the Finale (Or "Demise") of the Genocide.")

All Lament of Bala Ged stanzas included.

But, I still have some ideas for the Half Equip-GoLion, & Half Saprocide deck that is in dire need of such Ideas I chose; then I'll leave it there. I actually more recently than not, some that works really well, to just suckage. I posted this Caerwyn; I know I shouldn't be clingy at all, but here they are:

Phyrexian Soulgorger

Claws of Gix

Demonmail Hauberk

Lich's Tomb

Shivan Harvest

Perilous Forays

Martyr's Cause

Greater Good

Trading Post

Evolutionary Leap

These are the best I can find, but what to keep? I'll leave it to you.

As for the decks mentioned still, I'll simplify them if that's what is demanded. Xantcha needs 13 cuts, Neheb needs Artifact draw, & cuts not just from an incompleat Maybeboard I treat as a Hotseat section, but from you. Kadena has a Hot seat at 100 for a chance to stay in the deck, only to replace w/ whatever means. Same for Pirate Tribal with Brass. Is it worth being as simple as it gets? I just find those words as too compacted, & not for the better; not like this at least. What would you recommend for any of this? I just made a Micro-sized things I want for each deck, & I only confused it more that I would through thorough detail. Any suggestions? I'm literally about to make a Follow-up of this forum post if this Phails.

August 18, 2019 11:32 a.m.

BMHKain says... #23

BUMPING LIKE THE SUBLIMINAL MIND F--- JESKAI WAY!

After so many bumps, no response. Hailed so many...

Lieutenant Worf (This was before Deep Space 9, so he wasn't Lt. Commander yet.): No response.

I personally wonder where I went wrong so much. The problem w/ these decks aren't primarily that they're finished; rather, while they are at the 100 already, I see PLENTY of room for important; & some are already in the Maybeboard! That is where I put such cards for the deck I rejected awhile back before considering them again. Basically, if you still freaking dunno, let Oxford cross against your own fate:

Hot Seat [ˈhät ˌsēt]

NOUN informal (The Hot Seat) Hotseat (noun) 1. The position of a person who carries full responsibility for something, including facing criticism or being answerable for decisions or actions.

"it's been a bad week for the men in the hot seat"

  1. NORTH AMERICAN The electric chair.

This was used long ago in American Ninja Warrior Qualifyings, & Regional Finals. The Defendant's Chair is a HUGE example of this rule, especially in Rugrat's Drew Pickles who in one episode had a Nightterror (Drew calling this a Nightmare is INCORRECT for the following.) where he was in a Court Case where even his allies were all against him; yep, even his Lawyer; as if he had one. Finally, even the likes of Ultimates in Fighting Games sometimes have varying torture to the target in question. (Relius Clover... Piss off!)

If that's not enough to explain what I'm trying to do, how to write the damn thing? Make a follow up post for this w/o a single reference in the OP? I'm already planning a Sevinne, the Chronoclasm deck in the style of Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge w/ all those expensive to Hardcast stuff in the first place. While I've yet to plan out Yarok, the Desecrated , I already have a Deck Name for it: 無限大虐殺の終焉の哀詩 (The Subname Kuso-Traslation is "The Dirge of the Finale of Infinite Genocide")

We seem to follow the SVO concept (Subject, Verb, Object.). JP does SOV; so, what to do about this? 無限大虐殺 (Infinite Genocide) is the Subject, 終焉 (Finale/Demise/End) I guess is an Object? But what kind of Verb is 哀詩 (Elegy)? I suppose Oxford also stated...

A word used to describe an action, state, or occurrence, and forming the main part of the predicate of a sentence, such as hear, become, happen.

It'll take awhile before I can get it. Until then, I really need more help than before now. That said, I dunno about Caerwyn's current status, but I'd still like some thoughts on something I have second thoughts of myself... Obviously it's on the post above. Until then, I might as well make a follow up, & rebuild my reputation from even one quark of an Atom from there. I really need to reduce my refeences to infinite nil; that's why my chain is broken; no, severed beyond belief. Well, best of luck... to all of us...

Oh, one last thing: I didn't know Verbs are Action/Status Terms, & Adjectives are describing terms; how stupid for a 26 yr. old would one have to be to know zilch about either? At least I have Kamigawa on my side. XP

August 19, 2019 1:35 p.m.

BMHKain says... #24

UPDATE: I've decided to make a follow-up to this topic. As nobody is responding to any of this, I ultimately get to a point where I can't handle no response at all. As a result; I decided against further comments, & go for a Sequelitus Status. You'll have to post these by then.

This is BMH... Signing off.

August 20, 2019 10:13 a.m.

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