The Orzhov Syndicate desires an audience for how to beat Animar...
Posted on Feb. 11, 2019, 12:06 p.m. by BMHKain
Commander / EDH*
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Before that even...
Now let's get to business...
Recently, I wanted to "Even the Odds" as MTGGoldfish does for some things that are meant to be truly impossibibble (Yes, I spelt it wrong on-purpose for a reason better than yours.) when it comes to Orzhov beating a certain Animar, Soul of Elements , which has full protection over a Syndicate known for their Currency Creation, & Religeous Scorn over Poverty. That said, I'm trying to make said EDH deck for the purpose of beating Animar (Be it "Unfitting" Morph Tribal, Mass Creature casting, & just making Animar stronger each time.); but this story doesn't end here. I actually also want it to be just as capale at beating that as with at least some others. Where do my problems start? The Commander thyself; I just don't know what commander in the Syndicate to use that isn't just another Life-Manipulation, or mass grave manipulation. I don't want to use any creature that one can overuse the amount of all at the same time (I abhorr you Shadowborn Apostle .), I just want a strategy that works.
Here's what & has that you might not know:
Time Magic: - Temporal Extortion (Although only one in this case, it can be reused...)
That said, I'm going to need stuf better than this for the Orzhov Syndicate to conquer Nature, & ruin its army as well. I really would like some suggestions for this. Maybe the cards above are not that good to you, but at least I have something. I believe my Landbase is fine as it is. What do you think should be changed though?
(& why am I acting like a goldfish on a frying pan?!)
If you want to go down a aristocrat deck, . It is a simple orzhov aristocrat list, but it gets the job done
February 11, 2019 12:25 p.m.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mostly-death-some-taxes/ Sorry, link didn’t work
February 11, 2019 12:27 p.m.
the best solution I could offer other than like Grave Pact to make them sac Animar would be board wipes.
February 11, 2019 2 p.m.
Just Oblivion Strike , Scour from Existence , Grip of Desolation , Wasteland Strangler (if small), make them sacrifice it, board wipe, mass bounce/exile, counter over and over with an effect like Deathgrip , Nevermore , Preacher , Gideon's Intervention , etc.
February 11, 2019 2:42 p.m.
Play Teysa Karlov . Play every wrath you can afford. Don't play Mana Tithe against a deck that can pay an extra 8 generic mana to resolve its Eldrazi titan.
February 11, 2019 3:21 p.m.
Teysa Karlov tokens with Grave Pact seems a good way to go. You could even include Teysa, Orzhov Scion and some of her combos. Or switch it around and just do combo Orzhov Scion with a Karlov in the 99.
February 11, 2019 4:45 p.m.
Thran Lens allows your creatures to block Animar and possibly remove him if any have deathtouch.
If you're playing 1 vs 1 Council's Judgment can always remove Animar.
Deathgrip is probably your BEST counterspell.
Since Animar starts as a 1/1 cards like Engineered Plague , Night of Souls' Betrayal , Curse of Death's Hold , Ethereal Absolution , and Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite make him die instantly before he can ever get big. (If he's already out and pumped up before you can get one out just use a board wipe and he'll be stuck in the command zone until the Animar player can remove this effect.)
Chalice of the Void on 3 makes it so Animar can't be cast.
February 11, 2019 11:38 p.m.
Animar functions by flooding the board with creatures. Board wipes are very effective against this strategy. Protection from white doesn't protect from Wrath of God effects.
February 12, 2019 8:32 a.m.
Such incredible suggestions. I think I MAY have enough to fulfill such a goal as of now. Thanks very much for all this. I know some others are probably going to nuke this topic in a lot of ways, so I just want this topic closed; I've enough options anyway. Thank you all. ^-^
BTW, I myself wonder if Teysa, Orzhov Scion is a thing still; oh, wait, the version is already in the database. I'll use this as CMDR instead; Thanks again!
February 12, 2019 8:55 a.m.
Animar is a creature based deck. You have some of the best sweepers ever in your colors. Use Toxic Deluge , Wrath of God , Damnation , Fumigate , Cleansing Nova , Terminus , Hallowed Burial , Rout , Decree of Pain , and others to beat it. I would include 6-7.
Killing animar is next to impossible in your colors. Maybe consider Unstable Obelisk ?
February 14, 2019 3:15 p.m.
CHECK THIS OUT; AN UPDATE:
Still at 98, but I'm not here for help of what to include. Since nobody seems to get the decks purpose; It is about beating Animar, Soul of Elements , but I also want this deck to beat other decks w/ as much efficiency. That said, I am here for what to replace in the current 98 for now. I just want cards that can dispose of both Animar, & even more... Eheh… I'd really like your suggestions from here.
Oh, & One last thing. I'm trying to find a card that can protect my Power 2 (Or less or more; same for toughness.) creatures in as I'm planning to update my cEDH Boros deck for the use of playtesting against Tier 3, & potentially better if successful; same for stuff that protects my CMC <=3; there doesn't seem to be any of this; & I'd like something like that in aforementioned Boros Deck... :/
February 19, 2019 10:58 a.m.
BUMPOTRON! WTF BRO!
OH THOSE GUYS LOOKED CUTE, & MADE ME LOOK LIKE THE EDW (Whada--- is an EDW?)
Don't know the reference I parodied? It makes G1 Megatron look lame in comparison to G1 Starscream; made worse as Megatron was joking at himself to hide his shame.
Well, I dunno about you guys, but I still am going for the exact rule I mentioned even on this post's OP in the first place; this isn't meant to deal w/ Animar alone. It was meant to deal with a variety of threats in addition. Animar is just used as a default target. In actuality; I actually wanted ideas to dispatch both Animar, & the usual other suspects all the same. With that said, I'm going somewhere else while the likes of those who thought this was Animar-only head back to Square Uno to rethink their ideas; though some are already good all around, & WILL stay as a result. At least well done to those...
Any other suggestions to replace some of the already at 98?
(Just think while I do a big project...)
February 20, 2019 12:14 p.m.
BUMP ASSAULT X
Now at 99, I'm getting a bit concerned as to why you all deck was initially intended for Animar, Soul of Elements . I am looking at ways to take out even Mayael the Anima , Mizzix of the Izmagnus , even some truly high caliber CMDRs. Your opinion on this matter is needed as this isn't just meant for Animar; it was meant to dispatch of many others.
I'll leave you to your suggestions; if anyone cares anymore...
February 21, 2019 11:23 a.m.
Actually... I should probably mention a suggestion for a list of stuff that have NO qualities of D: Damage, E: Equip/Enchant, B: Blocking, & T: Targeting. Simply put: Stuff that uses:
- No need to damage to Destroy or even Exile.
- Can be Manipulated via Equipments/Auras (Not like I need any. Why not Equip though?)
- Is Unblockable as a creature (Effects are better, but why not?)
- Can bypass both Shroud/Hexproof, & better.
Is anyone able to make a list of such things that exist with all 4 qualities? It'd be great for others w/ this problem as well if one can make a list with all colors; & combinations if any... Thanks BTW! :)