Perfectly (im)Balanced, As All Things Should Be... (The Superfriends Deck Last Lap Qs if any care.)

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Posted on June 23, 2019, 5:06 p.m. by BMHKain

(Yes, I pulled off a freaking Thanos; but only half a Plane of Existence dies. Rip. No wonder Darkseid would beat him, & Nintendo never lost a Death Battle for soooo long (& no, Mario vs Sonic fight 1 barely counts; same for Nintendo vs Nintendo.) X/)


1000% Spark Storm (EDH Superfriends Primer)

Commander / EDH* BMHKain

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Just thank GhostChieftain for the suggestion on using something I need to use more. I did. :)

I personally wonder how a sequel to an otherwise, crappy attempt for advice for a deck like this can get any worse. Regardless, might as well push on; ALOT of cuts have been made since; & I'm truly nearing the end; which means after that, I'll allow the personal Merit to make a Morophon, the Boundless Human Tribal Deck. But after that, & trying to make & cut to 100 cards for Kruphix, God of Horizons & aforementioned Tribal Deck; There is no more turning back; I plan to make a Tribal Deck w/ Kykar, Wind's Fury based on the 2016/2017 Documentary The Red Pill; as nobody had a previous objection to this even now, it is officially too late to object the idea.

& One last bit of news for now: I plan to do something regarding "Project: Razia's Parhelion II" (Working Title)

IT's a Working Title as even though Razia, Boros Archangel was the Parun (The only rank of a Guild higher than a Guild Leader) of the Boros Legion; I actually wanted to get as ancient as possible; before the Ten Paruns was still an idea, & Ravnica, compared to other Major Planes of Existence is just recently formed in comparison to (then) many others.

Think of this as a haven for those who can think of combos in Commander/EDH that can win games; all while improving upon ideas The Legion would only dream of doing as a Guild. All that said & done though, I do apologize for this part of the whole thing; but it's not like I'd want to make a Tier 1 deck of this kind right away; that is too much already. But because Feather, the Redeemed , & (As a Joke.) Depala, Pilot Exemplar seemed to reach Tier 3, I'll start young from there. Even so, I do apologize about this kind of idea; but it just might work; after all, one topic stated "I played Boros before it is considered "cool""

Not the right name, but you get my point. If any of the few, the proud, the cEDH Boros users want to join in the future, I only need one suggestion: In MTG Lore, The Boros League's Parun: Razia is the first thing we know of in Ravnican Lore for the Boros Legion. But there was also a time before even the idea of a Parun of a Guild was ever a thought; here would have to be someone for each of the "Ten Guilds-To-Become" as the Primordial base for all ten. You may list all 10 each if you wish, but I just want the one for Boros.

& yes, In apologize for the whole "Boros" idea for the few cEDH Players, but, as I said before, most of my crap is more akin to "Semi-Competitive" anyway.

AW CRAP! I souldn't have mentioned my updates here! Uh, here are the questions before I have a mental breakdown for having most of this topic about anything, but Questions:

1: ( Teferi, Timebender trashed. Nexus of Fate 's is stil MIA)

2: On the Topic of ol' Mu-Mu (I pray I'm still being honourable to her while enchristening her with a cute, & Affectionate Nickname; I don't understand Chinese Dialect; & I'm trying to learn Nipponese Kanji... Please forgive Me, Yanling...) She too has two new iterations, but which is the better to add?: Do you think Mu Yanling, Sky Dancer would be good? Sucks that has 2 Loyalty, maybe adding Prismatic Omen again can help? At least it's better than having to deal w/ Blood Moon , or what about Mu Yanling, Celestial Wind ?

3: ( Elspeth, Knight-Errant is kept.)

4: Golos, Tireless Pilgrim is an awesome new reveal, & I consider Top Secret Tek. Flikering it Recht & Link to supply you w/ your whole library of Lands, easily a card that is of immense Banworthiness. I also included Crucible of Worlds (Which WILL NOT leave the deck; especially if I get my lands screwed by an Armageddemon . Since I don't intend to lose either of the former, I think it is time to recreate Zendikar in ways not even Nissa, Who Shakes the World would ever do; Wrenn and Six can manipulate Lands, while working w/ both Crucible of Worlds & Golos, Tireless Pilgrim . But there is Also Xenagos, the Reveler , who makes a ton of mana from your creature tokens; can make a Hasty 2/2 Satyr, & for the record, his Ultimate is ENTIRELY OPTIONAL.

So, who would you pick: Wrenn and Six , or Xenagos, the Reveler ? Or should I not have cut Kiora, the Crashing Wave in the first place, & put her back, maybe even keeping in one of the former 2?

5: Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast ; Reason of Death: The creature from the Star Trek episode: The Man Trap.

6: (Ol' Teyo gets promoted in rank as a Shieldmage.)

(Not like it matters, Walkers w/ Indestructible while still being Walkers can be damaged all the same...)

7: (Misguided Idiocy Averted.)

8: (Very well. This Karn gets Korned.)

9:


Budget cedh mana base

Commander / EDH* timmyt1000

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Because I had no choice but to mention this again. After I reach the 100 card mark, I wonder how to rebuild my landbase on a budget-level cEDH Level; despite being only "Semi-Cometitive". How'd you recreate this? Remember the Cycle Duals are mandatory 5 slots by default, & Crucible of Worlds , & Golos, Tireless Pilgrim are not to be cut from the non-lands either.

Side Note: It's fair enough This was meant for 1, 2, or even 3 color decks; I just used something similar for the current decklist.

10: Mirari's Wake is added. Status regarding Night of Souls' Betrayal is still MIA.

11: (nope.)

And... that's it, actually. That took soooo long. So I'd like some answers unless anyone can make me answer them myself. Regardless, I still need to cut to 100 cards. So I hope this crappy sequel can help... :D

For Now, I'm planning after all this...

Actually, I have one last announcement. Remember that time that I wanted to make a Partners Deck? Well, I wasn't kidding. & neither is the theme in question, based on these cards:

  1. Riftsweeper

  2. Pull from Eternity

  3. Torrent Elemental

  4. Void Maw

  5. Runic Repetition

  6. Mirror of Fate

  7. Misthollow Griffin

  8. Inverter of Truth (Maybe?)

Yep, I'm making a deck based on Exile running colors. Not running Atraxa though; I can't even believe I even cut her from Superfriends/Avengers. What two Partners would be good in a deck like this? & no, is exempt from this as their exile stuff isn't truly well devised here unless you got some things to say otherwise against this fact.

Huh... Finally... It worked. Thanks go to GhostChieftain for the Accordion method. I guess I'll have to use it more...

GhostChieftain says... #2

Once again I would love to help you, but you have posted a wall of text with no tl;dr. I am unsure as to why you need to write a novel with each post in which you ask 10+ questions, but you may benefit from learning how to make accordions on your post in which you can explain everything behind each question that you want to explain. This way it will be easier to go through what all you are saying and asking without scrolling through everything to find each of your questions. I hope in telling you this you will use it and get better answers than this in your next posts.


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If you forget how to do this, you can use the handy dandy formatting tips link beneath each comment box on the site.

June 23, 2019 8:10 p.m.

GhostChieftain says... #3

Here is one of my decks with an example of accordions in action.

June 23, 2019 8:17 p.m.

BMHKain says... #4

@GhostChieftain: Very well. I'll do the accordion technique very soon. Hang on...

June 24, 2019 8:53 a.m.

BMHKain says... #5

@GhostChieftain: Eh, wherever you live, man, we've got a APOLLO 13 Style Problem. (Aerosmith's "Don't Wanna Miss a Thing" plays, except instead of Aerosmith, Miku Hatsune JP Dubs the song perfectly, & a Music Video is shown about how Miku misses Luka Megurine as she head outside our universe, even to a point where Luka actually dies, & Miku never hears from her again until one last email after all that. God, how I loved Voices of a Distant Star. Very tragic, but such distance between Earth, & even outside our own Forseeable Universe; maybe even beyond the Delta Quadrant of Star Trek Fame...)

Ah, forget the Miku Hatsune stuff; That's what I would've wanted to do if I used that Yamaha thing; WHICH I DON'T. X/ Also, I'd rather I don't know locations; It was just a satire replacement for Houston, TX. XP

But really, the problem is actually the Accordion System itself. Every time I try to do this, it just doesn't respond well... as if the panels don't show... I'll try the template a 2nd time as a base, you may respond when you wish too.

(Over.)

June 24, 2019 12:28 p.m.

GhostChieftain says... #6


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Adieu, I guess... And... that's it, actually. That took soooo long. So I'd like some answers unless anyone can make me answer them myself. Regardless, I still need to cut to 100 cards. So I hope this crappy sequel can help... :D

For Now, I'm planning after all this... 

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Adieu, I guess... And... that's it, actually. That took soooo long. So I'd like some answers unless anyone can make me answer them myself. Regardless, I still need to cut to 100 cards. So I hope this crappy sequel can help... :D

For Now, I'm planning after all this...

You need to make sure it looks something like this instead of how you have it. Enter after each instance of (===panel...accordion... ect.)

June 24, 2019 2 p.m.

BMHKain says... #7

@GhostChieftain: Well, I finally damn near did it. Do you wish for any advice from here? I'm practically done here for now, & will plan out my Morophon, the Boundless Human Tribal Deck...

June 24, 2019 2:29 p.m.

BMHKain says... #8

@GhostChieftain: I BUMP THIS TRASH WITH MY 10,000 FLIP OFFS AT YOU!!!

Well, I have another section put in in case you want to check it out. But now I have done the Accordion thing, any suggestions for this? I'm going to add back Atraxa for now...

June 25, 2019 10:25 a.m.

GhostChieftain says... #9

10,000 flip offs at me? I have been trying to help you so you can maybe get better help from others.

You reference 2 or 3 completely separate things in many of your sentences and I for one have difficulty putting myself through reading your posts. I really do want to help, but with your rambling references you both make your posts way longer than they need to be and alienate people who may not have the same knowledge of your interests. I know others have told you this in different posts, but apparently it hasn't quite sunk in so I hope that me telling you to cut down your references by at least half if not more will help you actually do it.

As I have said before, I truly believe that you can make some of these decisions on your own and it will make you a better player for it. I will answer a few since I suggested you use accordions, but bumping your own posts and telling me 1000 flip offs at you makes me very much not want to anymore.

1 teferi timebender is trash

2 didn't figure out where the question was and stopped caring about it

3 elspeth is much better for you than avacyn. The fact that it is a walker, it is cheaper cmc, and can toss blockers on the board makes it very much worth it with superfriends.

4 this is like 5 different questions that I will not be answering due to the ramble

5 drop daretti

6 i would say between the two teyo is more relevant

7 i dont believe sundial works like that

8 karn/mycosynth is only worth if your group allows a sideboard

9 budget level cedh level only happens in mono and dual colors. You are gonna have a rough time not hemorraging money with a wubrg deck

10 there are better options with humility than ethereal, but I cant recall off the top of my head at the moment.

11 there are plenty of good cards that you won't run because it is not your deck's strategy

Your last addition, you want red for the first sliver(or niv reborn but not both) and squee the immortal so you can food chain combo if you are using exile.

I dont care if you take my card advice, but please take my other advice. It will be helpful to you. I am sorry if I came off as harsh, but I promise you I mean no ill towards you. Best of luck in all your endeavors

June 25, 2019 11:21 a.m.

Caerwyn says... #10

GhostChieftain is correct regarding Sundial of the Infinite - the reminder text clearly states that "'until end of turn" effects end."

You're getting it confused with a different set of abilities--triggered abilities that occur at the end of your turn, or delayed trigger abilities, such as the delayed trigger on Final Fortune , which is placed on the stack. The trick is to use Sundial when the ability you wish to remove is on the stack, taking advantage of the "Exile all . . . abilities on the stack" language. Effects that simply wear off at the end of turn, without a resultant delayed trigger, do not use the stack--hence their different treatment in Sundial's reminder text.

June 25, 2019 11:42 a.m.

BMHKain says... #11

@GhostChieftain: Nah, I was the jackass between us. The 10,000 thing was just a bad reference to another well known card game that is celebrating it's 20th Anniversery in Japan/Nippon; I apologize for the insult; I wasn't intended to be that; & now I driven you off; like soooo many others. That Said, I'll take whatever advice you have left; considering the contemplation of Abandon

@cdkime: (It really sucks I can't talk to you in private as funds are as broke as the world's worst Foreclosure; which is NOT Guinness World Records legal.)

Actually, you know what? After your comment, you're absolutely right. Well, it's going to suck for a card that negates "This Turn" & "Until End of Turn" effects to currently not exist; which may be for the best; such a card would be truly Banworthy; just imagine all kinds of cards that can abuse the removal of those things on a card's rules text. I bet the amount of individual cards is at least 5... Digits.

Anyway, sorry that I offended you, GhostChieftain; that wasn't why I referenced that. It was because of a card in another TCG I used to play; sucked at it, & before 5Ds ended in America; quit as the ultimate loser. No hard feelings? I'm not giving any; oh, & before I go, I'll have to revise several questions that really are like mushmouth. Sorry I let you guys down. >_<

June 25, 2019 4:26 p.m.

BMHKain I guess that is an unitended, but good example of how your references can go wrong. I really appreciate that you apologized for it though. No hard feelings. And you haven't let me down. We just had a bit of failure to communicate. You made a reference I didn't understand, I took offense to it because it seemed to my eyes that you were being quite rude, you apologized and explained what you meant, and now we are good. No let down, just misunderstanding.

I have 3 pieces of advice that I want you to walk away from this thread with and try to remember in the future.

1: Don't quit being you, but reduce the references in your posts so they are more easily read and not misunderstood

2: You seem to be a smart person since you can remember all these references and keep them straight, so try to trust in your own intellect and judgement for some of these questions rather than asking others on so many of your choices.

3: Be a little bit easier on yourself!! Keep your chin up, you are the very best you that there is!

June 25, 2019 5:35 p.m.

Hey there, popping back in here from your last forum post. Looks like you're still very extraneous with the amount of writing versus the help you're trying to get. Check out other forum posts for ideas on how to shorten your posts, starting with cutting out all of the unrelated pop culture references. Having one in the title is okay, might draw some people in who are part of the fandom that you're relating to, but the sheer amount that you're putting in the body of the forum is insane.

If you'd like, I'll enable chat so that for your next forum post we can go step by step and trim it down until the average MTG player will be able to help you and doesn't feel like they're overwhelmed when reading the blocks.

June 25, 2019 5:47 p.m.

Scratch that, you're not upgraded. Either you can upgrade your account so we can talk in pms, or one of us can create a private deck and share it with the other so that we can talk on there.

June 25, 2019 5:48 p.m.

BMHKain says... #15

@scotchtapedsleeves: Don't worry. I'll upgrade myself hopefully soon enough; it just seems like mere lies at this point. & for the record; I plan to reconcile w/ someone else first; then I'll get to you after. :)

@GhostChieftain: Thanks. I will go ahead & clean up the Corpses that I failed to do for so long (Dammit WAR. XP)

However, I've still some questions needing answers. After that, I'll shut up; I mean, I've plans for a Morophon, the Boundless Human Tribal Deck, a Kykar, Wind's Fury Vorthos deck based upon a Documentary (God forbid.); a revised project about a Mono- "Impurities" Matter deck, & the last to mention, I'll mention at the end of this post:

  1. Teferi, Timebender , Chopped. What is the fate of Nexus of Fate here? Is it worth replacing; or is the idea of Ral Zarek 's Ultimate actually worth a Gamble?

  2. Two new Mu Yanling 's have been confirmed awhile back: Mu Yanling, Sky Dancer , & Mu Yanling, Celestial Wind . For Mu #1: if she makes it in, is she worth the readd of Prismatic Omen for Infinite Draw? or is Mu Yanling, Celestial Wind decent enough? I, mean, one of the Elspeth's Ultimates gives your Creatures Flying as an Emblem; something Archetype of Imagination should be able to remove, though it's for another time.

  3. Golos, Tireless Pilgrim & Crucible of Worlds won't leave this deck any time soon. But in your thoughts, which Walker, in any combination of the following should be kept?

1: Wrenn and Six : Recurring Lands to your Hand is great, one damage is okay, but giving your Nonpermanents (Instants & Sorceries) Retrace? AWESOME!

2: Xenagos, the Reveler : Lots of Tokens? No problem! You'll be netting a lot of ramp in the form of & Mana of any combination! a 2/2 Satyr w/ Haste is good too! Oh, & it's not like you'll need to use that Ult of his; it's completely optional!

3: Kiora, the Crashing Wave : Why did I cut her? She stops damage heading to & coming from any target. Does both Card advantage & Mana Ramp at one time; & the thought of a 9/9 every turn is just fearsome.

Which would you give the Approval of, & Rejection of these three?

  1. Heh. I just threw that in there as an alt. Solution in case the current Manabase might need minor improvement. Guess not... Ah well...

  2. I ended up simply adding Mirari's Wake as a result of this. But I'd still like some thought on Night of Souls' Betrayal . Is it worth adding? I already have a list of Combos of Potential Consideration in my head as we speak; & one of the combos might include this...

FINAL: For the Omake/EXTRA: You stated I'd be better off using something like Niv-Mizzet Reborn , or even The First Sliv alongside Squee, the Immortal , & Food Chain in a deck which exiles stuff on purpose (See: Teferi's Protection , Academy Rector , Cards w/ Flashback, etc.). Past in Flames would be great here, but just doesn't have enough of what the rest of the colors can do. That's why I wanted to use Witch-Maw/Atraxa/Growth as they have the best of this in these colors. There is just one problem: Atraxa, Praetors' Voice is meant for more Counters-Support as well as a Supperfriends 99 Slot (Is there such a thing as a Partner Duo that does Domain/5-Colors? No.), & Witch-Maw Nephilim isn't even a Legendary Creature (I guess that's why Ravnica drove these beings to Extinction?), so I can't use it as a CMDR. This leaves us w/ only Partner Commanders unless you tell me different about a Niv-Mizzet that couldn't even beat Bolas, much less live to tell the tale of Bolas' demise; watched over by Ugin. As for The First Sliv , I'm not running Sliv Tribal, so the effect only applies to Sliv Queen 's Mama.

If you can prove me wrong about this; I won't have to use the following for ideas as Partners:

1: Thrasios, Triton Hero & Tymna the Weaver

2: Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker & Reyhan, Last of the Abzan

3: Ravos, Soultender & Thrasios, Triton Hero

4: Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa & Silas Renn, Seeker Adept

5: Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix & Tymna the Weaver

6: Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix & Ravos, Soultender

7: Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper & Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker

I wonder if any of these duos can handle a deck about exiling powerful stuff & even retrieving back your own when you shouldn't even do so...

After all this, It's all me now. Core 2020 will soon be released. Time to call Slivers "Slivs". Elspeth Tirel , Vivien Reid , & Mu Yanling to have a threesome, Bant Style (Yes, I made this up for reasons more meaningful than you'd think. Just look at the basic picture. XP), & if Birthing Pod , Vivien's Arkbow , Bow of Nylea , Wolfrider's Saddle , Verdurous Gearhulk & Thundering Tanadon (BTW, Vorinclex was mentioned in this card's Flavor Text; meaning he isn't against impurities after all. Why can he & Jin-Gitaxias just MAKE UP! We have Ezuri, Claw of Progress ! What's his lore when Ezuri became this?!) taught us anything; I need to prove Mono- can make a CMDR w/ no use of AEthermancy, doesn't need to "Craft" Life to invent it; Or Artifact creatures that kill Impurities (& Fliers; we have Birds of Paradise !); & such a deck will be made regardless on any regard. Time to introduce Nature to the rotten soup known as Peat that after millions of years of evolution (Another Quality.) became Slate, which is, in fact a Metal Composite, which can be used for true crafting of Artifice in .

(sigh... I'll end this now. I think I've gone too insane on the Grixis identity of mine.)

REALLY Sorry about this wall of binary crap. Might as well be the last time to be forgiven for anything... DX

June 26, 2019 12:15 p.m.

The first sliver is not only used as a sliver tribal commander. It is also the best cEDH food chain commander. You get out Food Chain and start casting/exiling/recasting Squee, the Immortal , Misthollow Griffin , or Eternal Scourge for infinite mana of all colors, then cast the first sliv from the command zone and exile it to food chain and cast it over and over again cascading into every nonland card in your deck. It is very spikey, but if you want your deck to he as good as you can get it, 5 color is the way to go with casting things from exile.

June 26, 2019 1:31 p.m.

BMHKain says... #17

@GhostChieftain: Ohh~ Damn. Didn't imagine that. I was merely making the deck for the purpose of using the Exile Zone as a use for recurring all kinds of stuff in some regard that gets exiled after use. Alright. I'll take that direction; in spite that In already have another cEDH Project to resume in the future regarding Boros. What? I know it sucks, yes; but we got Feather, the Redeemed at Tier 3. I just wanted to help the color identity's cause; even if those are sick of me doing it for more than a year now; 2 maybe.

Regardless; I just wanted the other questions answered if you wish. Then I'll shut the matter up for good on that notion; & I'll go solo for the rest of such a crappy epic. Thanks for the support up until now BTW. :)

June 26, 2019 5:07 p.m.

BMHKain says... #18

@GhostChieftain: LET'S BUMP IT UP 200 NOTCHES; Battle of Wits STYLE.

  1. Teferi, Timebender , Chopped. What is the fate of Nexus of Fate here? Is it worth replacing; or is the idea of Ral Zarek 's Ultimate actually worth a Gamble?

  2. Two new Mu Yanling 's have been confirmed awhile back: Mu Yanling, Sky Dancer , & Mu Yanling, Celestial Wind . For Mu #1: if she makes it in, is she worth the re-add of Prismatic Omen for Infinite Draw? or is Mu Yanling, Celestial Wind decent enough? I, mean, one of the Elspeth's Ultimates gives your Creatures Flying as an Emblem; something Archetype of Imagination should be able to remove, though it's for another time.

  3. Golos, Tireless Pilgrim & Crucible of Worlds won't leave this deck any time soon. But in your thoughts, which Walker, in any combination of the following should be kept?

1: Wrenn and Six : Recurring Lands to your Hand is great, one damage is okay, but giving your Nonpermanents (Instants & Sorceries) Retrace? AWESOME!

2: Xenagos, the Reveler : Lots of Tokens? No problem! You'll be netting a lot of ramp in the form of & Mana of any combination! a 2/2 Satyr w/ Haste is good too! Oh, & it's not like you'll need to use that Ultimate of his; it's completely optional!

3: Kiora, the Crashing Wave : Why did I cut her? She stops damage heading to & coming from any target. Does both Card advantage & Mana Ramp at one time; & the thought of a 9/9 every turn is just fearsome. Which would you give the Approval of, & Rejection of these three?

  1. Heh. I just threw that in there as an alt. Solution in case the current Manabase might need minor improvement. Guess not... Ah well...

  2. I ended up simply adding Mirari's Wake as a result of this. But I'd still like some thought on Night of Souls' Betrayal . Is it worth adding? I already have a list of Combos of Potential Consideration in my head as we speak; & one of the combos might include this...

I just wanted to bring these questions back up. Once I got them answered, then I'll leave the rest of the damn job to me; after all, The Mono- deck I'm planning has a Philosophy for WHY needs more Artifice (They're just fine w/ Enchantments though.), Flying Creatures ( Birds of Paradise much?), basically every point against WotC about & its conventional traits. I'll begin after I finish off my Morophon, the Boundless Human Tribal. Or, maybe my Exile Matters Deck... Who knows... Hyro… dorodorodoro…

(Okay, that part made no sense.)

June 27, 2019 11:06 a.m.

Nexus seems fine. Might be better to use a lower cmc extra turn spell though

Mu yangling, skydancer is the better of the two and I still wouldn't play it

Wrenn and six is confirmed to be a nutty card with the right landbase. It made a strong showing in the semifinal round of my commander league's tournament last night. (I ended 3rd with my deck that I linked in an earlier comment and lost to a sacred hulk deck and brago stax)

I would pass on xenagos in this

I kind of love kiora, but that is definitely a holdover from casual me. I would say give it a try and see how it goes

Souls betrayal seems okay. Not bad, not great. Very middle of the road, but it does protect you vs aggro strategies

June 27, 2019 12:42 p.m.

BMHKain says... #20

@GhostChieftain: (Analyzes options.)

Options found.

  1. Time Warp : . A card made in response to Time Walk 's Undercosted cost. A balanced variant, & even one that doesn't exile itself.

  2. Temporal Manipulation : A functional reprint of Time Warp; officially left the reserved list via ULTIMATE MASTERS as a Mythic Rare.

  3. Savor the Moment : Inexpensive, but w/ the drawback of not being able to untap anything.

  4. Timestream Navigator : Same cost as Time Walk , but requires her to be put on the bottom of the library for an extra turn; & that requires 10 Nontoken Permanents in play under your control. It's unknown how this deck can retrieve her for infinite extra turns.

  5. Lighthouse Chronologist : A Level-Up Creature that when reaching Lv. 7; requiring 7 , allows an Extra Turn in between your opponents turns.

That's what I could find for good options...

Now for the rest:

Dang, poor Yanling isn't doing so well... Maybe the Starting 2 Loyalty DOES hurt?

Right landbase, huh... I think my Landbase may be such an example; I, mean, the list so far has Golos, Tireless Pilgrim , & Crucible of Worlds . I think the question after that is the last question about Wrenn and Six ; but not only is it the hardest to answer, but it involves the Instants & Sorceries having Retrace as an Emblem. Well, at least we have a 2CMC Walker that is great after the hell Tibalt went through until WAR; where he was improved just a little bit; but for the Half Devil, that's a Thumbsupsky enough.

Heh... I figured as much about Xenagos. Now I might be learning something...

Well, at least one Walker with a Starting Loyalty of 2 is to be added...

I know my center color is infamous as a gambling color, but I'm taking my chances on this.

Well, I will say this, I really appreciate all the help I could about this. But if I had one thing to say, it's...:

(Huh... Now I think about it, I think I might actually have learned something. But how can I even learn that very thing if I'm DEAD?!)

Well, I'm actually not dead; just a failed attempt to reference Scott Pilgrim (The Movie, obviously. Though it's a World of Sin that I'm the only Atoner who hates Wallace Wells; Bad art (Graphic Novels.). Bad personality (Both.). He isn't even good as anything. Sorry, but if I had a gripe about the film, Knives' Dad was mentioned, but never shown; & he is an absolute badass.)

No really though, this is going to sound really stupid, but as I'm making a Human Tribal deck as we speak, other plans are still imprinted in my head:

  1. Is there a place anywhere in Commander for Inverter of Truth ? MTG Goldfish even stated this card as "Against all Odds" material, & has an episode about a deck tech about this.

  2. It's quite ironic nobody wants to see a Mono- deck w/ elements outside of that of itself. We got Vivien's Arkbow , Tree of Tales , even Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger stated Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur is nothing but a dumbass on all regards stating Nature is the prime winner; BUT STILL MADE ARTIFACT CREATURES in w/ quotes by him. Such hypocrisy from a Praetor that Nature is superior to actual though of mind, & INVENTED his own creatures! & this is before KALADESH! While we're at this, there even is Birthing Pod ; another Artifact. I actually have plans to make an anti- Mono- deck. I know everyone wants to say no, but after the accordion crap earlier on, I think it's time to settle the debate: Birds of Paradise to anyone w/ Reach (Spiders must die.). Philosophy of Nature to Philosophy of Evolution (Also Mono- possible, so it does work.), Impurity Killers to even what Thrun, the Last Troll , who is very supportive of the idea of artifice in spite of his Mono- status, as well as his kind driven to extinction. I'll proceed by the time I'm finished w/ my The Red Pill Vorthos Deck.

Sorry about all that. I've so many ideas, it's criminal. Well thanks for all you could; I'm guessing Inverter of Truth won't work in a The First Sliv deck about Casting Self-Exile Spells, while retrieving them back just as easily, are there any cards that can just retrieve Exiled cards FACE-DOWN (Face-Down being the key term; normally Exiled cards are face-up.)? If not, could it still work? I'll keep the Devoid Eldrazi in the Maybeboard until further notice. Well, I'll end this soon enough; but the other 2 projects are literally in my path currently; & wow. How I wasn't working on cEDH Boros after a second cEDH project in the works; sadly, I'm no Limited Edition ALPHA player, so to those that require expensive stuff, why? & are there any conventional reprints that do just as well?

Well, as Gene Wilder would say: Adieu. Adieu. Parting is such sweet sorrow.

June 27, 2019 2:23 p.m.

BMHKain says... #21

AUGH! ABUMPAGEDDON!!!

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@GhostChieftain: Someone stated when I reach around 5 cards left to cut, The closest I got is:


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Yep, I could only go as far as 6 before giving up. So I hope my efforts are worth your while as I also made some huge sacrifices; some I actually also want in there; & regret cutting.

So we got two things to settle all this time:

  1. Get to the 100 Choppa!

  2. What deserves a return? Odd that I have one card in mind to revise the damned thing all over as of deck completion.

So many cards got chopped when they probably didn't deserve it. You can find them in the Maybeboard from there.

But, since I WAS so close to your requirements of 5 cards before help from someone else, I just wonder if you can deal w/ 6 for now...

wait...

Was it GhostChieftain, or someone else who stated the 5 card rule before final assistance? I'll find out soon enough...

July 3, 2019 2:40 p.m.

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